Comments on: A Google Wave to the LMS Haters

By: Stevie

Stevie — Sat, 03 Oct 2009 16:55:01 +0000

I found some Google Wave invites, hit me up stevencruisest@gmail.com

By: Matt

Matt — Tue, 09 Jun 2009 20:09:18 +0000

Google Wave really does seem to be the future of communications wether or not it is in education. The potential that Google Wave for education is truly exciting and I hope that it will someday be fully realized. The fact that it is open source and can be hosted on your own servers really show they are committed to finding useful tools to expand what email and communication can be. Google is a giant company that may seem nefarious at times but really they are a bunch of engineers solving an immediate problem that they are presented with. The social ramifications as well as the big brother impact surprisingly rarely is a part of the equation. While Moodle is good system it is clunky and too much of a walled garden. There needs to be a dead simple LMS solution out there that can be open, secure and simple to build class sites. Think weebly meets google wave. I don’t know if the wave is the answer but man it really is an intriguing next step.

By: Reverend

Reverend — Fri, 05 Jun 2009 17:44:32 +0000

Wow,
Thanks for all the comments here. Once again I thought this was a throw away, but from it I found out that we actually may be able to host and exercise some local control over the Wave is amazing when you think about it. It makes the whole idea of that is much more tha open API, but open source, that much more powerful.

By: Martin

Martin — Fri, 05 Jun 2009 07:31:02 +0000

In general I don’t buy into the whole digital natives argument that education has to change because ‘these kids are using such great tools everyday’. I think students kind of accept (maybe even expect) education stuff to be different (read – ‘dull’). BUT, I think Wave may change that – if you are encountering these type of tools in other contexts, then finding tools in education that is meant to achieve the same end, but does so poorly, will mean students really will ask ‘WTF?’

By: VRBones

VRBones — Wed, 03 Jun 2009 13:57:32 +0000

Scott Wilson has already converted some of the gwave gadgets to run on pure HTML5, so the technology for integration with waves purely by the whitepaper spec would seem a reality.

The biggest impact of gwave will be its disruptiveness to established (and establishing) brands. The faster something like wave is adopted, the faster it flatlines the competition by changing the rules of the game. Open source and open API just accelerates the change.

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Wed, 03 Jun 2009 07:53:12 +0000

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By: Mitchell Wong

Mitchell Wong — Tue, 02 Jun 2009 15:44:27 +0000

I believe that in the video, Google claimed that any information sent within the other Wave servers would not pass through the Google server at all. Some other data such as the robots and gadgets currently can only be hosted on Google’s app engine though.

By: James

James — Mon, 01 Jun 2009 23:42:23 +0000

@Andre I’m not sure the instances were truly running completely independent of Google, though I could be wrong. With HTML5 and open APIs, a wave could likely appear to be running independent of Google, while very much still interacting with Google, or more importantly, storing the data on Google’s servers.

I’m not sure Google has any desire to kill email at all. I think it still comes down to indexing as much of everything as possible. When you add this kind of collaboration to search, maps, email, groups, profiles, street view, Earth, etc, and you begin to tie them together and knowing which users are doing what, it becomes very powerful.

In truth, I think Google’s endgame is more about building the social graph of the web and making most other communication tools redundant.

By: Andre Malan

Andre Malan — Mon, 01 Jun 2009 23:30:42 +0000

I think Google’s plans for Wave means that we don’t have to worry about everything being in the Google web. They showed two examples of the same technology running completely independent of Google’s servers.

That means that institutions that can’t or don’t want to use Google (any university in Canada for example) can just install Wave on their own servers and leave Google out of the picture.

I think the goal from a Google standpoint is to make email redundant. They know that that would be impossible if they made everything Google, so they had to make it nice and open (well that’s what they said anyway). Let’s hope they stick to that promise.

By: Does Google Wave Mean the End of the LMS?

Does Google Wave Mean the End of the LMS? — Mon, 01 Jun 2009 23:09:44 +0000

[...] are being made by people who have already replaced their LMS. It is not terribly shocking to read Jim Groom predicting that this time the LMS is REALLY doomed!!!! (I mean that to be taken affectionately.) If you are [...]