Comments on: Am I wrong? AM I WRONG?! http://bavatuesdays.com/am-i-wrong-am-i-wrong/ a "b" blog Fri, 19 Mar 2010 17:25:38 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Reverend http://bavatuesdays.com/am-i-wrong-am-i-wrong/comment-page-1/#comment-77304 Reverend Mon, 24 Nov 2008 15:53:42 +0000 http://bavatuesdays.com/?p=2023#comment-77304 Martin, Why thanks, I needed that, especially after meeting Jane Wells at WordCampEd and seeing how passionate she is about these very issues of education and openness. I'm often wrong, but I agree with you, better to err on the side of open and free. And it looks like WordPrss is reamining just that ;) Martin,

Why thanks, I needed that, especially after meeting Jane Wells at WordCampEd and seeing how passionate she is about these very issues of education and openness. I’m often wrong, but I agree with you, better to err on the side of open and free. And it looks like WordPrss is reamining just that ;)

]]> By: Martin Santos http://bavatuesdays.com/am-i-wrong-am-i-wrong/comment-page-1/#comment-77298 Martin Santos Mon, 24 Nov 2008 14:21:58 +0000 http://bavatuesdays.com/?p=2023#comment-77298 Jim, you are wrong but it's necesary protect with passion our right to think and learn in a free way....so you are wrong but in the good way Jim, you are wrong but it’s necesary protect with passion our right to think and learn in a free way….so you are wrong but in the good way
]]> By: WordCampEd 2008 at Bionic Teaching http://bavatuesdays.com/am-i-wrong-am-i-wrong/comment-page-1/#comment-77262 WordCampEd 2008 at Bionic Teaching Mon, 24 Nov 2008 03:30:31 +0000 http://bavatuesdays.com/?p=2023#comment-77262 [...] to talk to us about it. She did a great job and even took the time to see if Jim was really as crazy as his posts to the WPMU mailing list made him [...] [...] to talk to us about it. She did a great job and even took the time to see if Jim was really as crazy as his posts to the WPMU mailing list made him [...]
]]> By: Douglas http://bavatuesdays.com/am-i-wrong-am-i-wrong/comment-page-1/#comment-77230 Douglas Sun, 23 Nov 2008 19:28:16 +0000 http://bavatuesdays.com/?p=2023#comment-77230 Jane said it perfectly. The cost section's intent is to address the costs associated with WordPress. Even though it is free and open source, users do need hosting and will likely need someone with technical expertise to install and manage it. The cost section does not try to pitch Automattic services. Jane said it perfectly. The cost section’s intent is to address the costs associated with WordPress. Even though it is free and open source, users do need hosting and will likely need someone with technical expertise to install and manage it. The cost section does not try to pitch Automattic services.
]]> By: Luke http://bavatuesdays.com/am-i-wrong-am-i-wrong/comment-page-1/#comment-77189 Luke Sun, 23 Nov 2008 07:20:47 +0000 http://bavatuesdays.com/?p=2023#comment-77189 Jane-- fair enough. I should have replaced "is" with "looks to me like it might be" or something of the like... the meaning certainly wasn't clear in the original email, as I think has been established, especially for folks who are looking in from the outside. I didn't mean to come off as dogging Automattic. Jane– fair enough. I should have replaced “is” with “looks to me like it might be” or something of the like… the meaning certainly wasn’t clear in the original email, as I think has been established, especially for folks who are looking in from the outside. I didn’t mean to come off as dogging Automattic.
]]> By: Jane Wells http://bavatuesdays.com/am-i-wrong-am-i-wrong/comment-page-1/#comment-77167 Jane Wells Sat, 22 Nov 2008 16:31:03 +0000 http://bavatuesdays.com/?p=2023#comment-77167 Luke, you mention Doug's inclusion of Cost as a section in his outline of a document and state that it means, "Automattic is preparing to pitch a service as a vendor, not merely to suggest that WordPress is a good solution for colleges." Matt's disavowal of this aside, I read the inclusion of Cost as a section that would identify costs associated with using WordPress (hosting, technical staff, etc) vs. using a commercial system such as Blackboard, Angel, etc. Luke, you mention Doug’s inclusion of Cost as a section in his outline of a document and state that it means, “Automattic is preparing to pitch a service as a vendor, not merely to suggest that WordPress is a good solution for colleges.” Matt’s disavowal of this aside, I read the inclusion of Cost as a section that would identify costs associated with using WordPress (hosting, technical staff, etc) vs. using a commercial system such as Blackboard, Angel, etc.
]]> By: Reverend http://bavatuesdays.com/am-i-wrong-am-i-wrong/comment-page-1/#comment-77152 Reverend Fri, 21 Nov 2008 19:55:35 +0000 http://bavatuesdays.com/?p=2023#comment-77152 Chris, I struck it from the record, because I love you :) Don't know why comment editing isn't working, need to look into that. It is something every blog should have, and would save me a lot of bad face and grammar. Chris,

I struck it from the record, because I love you :) Don’t know why comment editing isn’t working, need to look into that. It is something every blog should have, and would save me a lot of bad face and grammar.

]]> By: Chris Lott http://bavatuesdays.com/am-i-wrong-am-i-wrong/comment-page-1/#comment-77151 Chris Lott Fri, 21 Nov 2008 19:05:14 +0000 http://bavatuesdays.com/?p=2023#comment-77151 That first paragraph sounds snarky, which wasn't my intent, but is an artifact of cut and paste. What happened to the ability to edit comments after they were posted? Anyway, the "but I'm sure you can understand it" phrase should be struck from the first paragraph! It belonged down in the second where it sounded much less snarkish. I think. That first paragraph sounds snarky, which wasn’t my intent, but is an artifact of cut and paste. What happened to the ability to edit comments after they were posted? Anyway, the “but I’m sure you can understand it” phrase should be struck from the first paragraph! It belonged down in the second where it sounded much less snarkish. I think.
]]> By: Chris Lott http://bavatuesdays.com/am-i-wrong-am-i-wrong/comment-page-1/#comment-77150 Chris Lott Fri, 21 Nov 2008 18:57:17 +0000 http://bavatuesdays.com/?p=2023#comment-77150 D'Arcy-- The question isn't about Matt's interest in knitting or education, but about a large group's use of WordPress. There is a difference, and it's subtle, <strike>but I'm sure you can understand it</strike>: disinterest in the field of education using X is different from interest in X itself. If I made a book binding machine and a large number of educators and institutions started using it, I could be interested even with no interest at all in education itself. And I know you understand the idea of rhetoric. The rhetoric is the point of my question: going out of the way to say that one is unexcited about something in a context discussing use of that something-- particularly when you are the founder and driving force in making that something in the first place-- has rhetorical meaning. It has even different rhetorical meaning from expressing disinterest. There's no need to say it, so saying it speaks to something happening in Matt's head. I, personally, would be interested to know what that was. But I'm certainly not demanding that he tell us! D’Arcy–

The question isn’t about Matt’s interest in knitting or education, but about a large group’s use of WordPress. There is a difference, and it’s subtle, but I’m sure you can understand it: disinterest in the field of education using X is different from interest in X itself. If I made a book binding machine and a large number of educators and institutions started using it, I could be interested even with no interest at all in education itself.

And I know you understand the idea of rhetoric. The rhetoric is the point of my question: going out of the way to say that one is unexcited about something in a context discussing use of that something– particularly when you are the founder and driving force in making that something in the first place– has rhetorical meaning. It has even different rhetorical meaning from expressing disinterest. There’s no need to say it, so saying it speaks to something happening in Matt’s head. I, personally, would be interested to know what that was.

But I’m certainly not demanding that he tell us!

]]> By: Reverend http://bavatuesdays.com/am-i-wrong-am-i-wrong/comment-page-1/#comment-77149 Reverend Fri, 21 Nov 2008 18:46:55 +0000 http://bavatuesdays.com/?p=2023#comment-77149 Matt, Kudos to you, not only for joining the conversation here, but for even considering dealing with the maniacs in edtech. It's a motley crew, but we know awesome software when we see it, and what you and your folks have designed enabled many of us to help individuals and institutions re-think the space of publishing in education on so many levels. And despite my nonsense here, the fact is we are using the work you have freely given away to help re-imagine the technology-enhanced future of education. I am extremely grateful for that and I guess sometimes it seems too good to be true, and folks start wondering...and in my case, often wrongly! Thanks for shopping at the bava, we appreciate your patronage :) Matt,

Kudos to you, not only for joining the conversation here, but for even considering dealing with the maniacs in edtech. It’s a motley crew, but we know awesome software when we see it, and what you and your folks have designed enabled many of us to help individuals and institutions re-think the space of publishing in education on so many levels. And despite my nonsense here, the fact is we are using the work you have freely given away to help re-imagine the technology-enhanced future of education. I am extremely grateful for that and I guess sometimes it seems too good to be true, and folks start wondering…and in my case, often wrongly!

Thanks for shopping at the bava, we appreciate your patronage :)

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