Comments on: And how does BuddyPress fit in to that future? http://bavatuesdays.com/and-how-does-buddypress-fit-in-to-that-future/ a "b" blog Fri, 19 Mar 2010 11:29:02 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Reverend http://bavatuesdays.com/and-how-does-buddypress-fit-in-to-that-future/comment-page-1/#comment-83551 Reverend Fri, 23 Oct 2009 15:07:40 +0000 http://bavatuesdays.com/?p=4419#comment-83551 Hey Bill, Good to here your Drupal voice here, was beginning to think that the whole application had been discontinued :) More seriously, we did try to think through a social element of UMW Blogs using Drupal, but quite honestly we get a whole lotta functionality for over 3000 users with a simple plugin. And while BuddyPress is far from perfect, it gives us a number of options simply by dropping in a plugin. The larger question independent of WP or Drupal, is whether a social network in a community using either application will work---their seems to be so many other options out there, that I have actually not been pushing the social networking part at all. And the groups in BuddyPress---though quite underdeveloped compared to Drupal's Organic Groups, provides some interesting ways to think about classes, but that is all still conceptual. I am taking BuddyPress low, and seeing if it has as much potential as I first imagined. I guess we'll see, but the use of it is pretty much born of the fact we are using WPMu for this already. Hey Bill,

Good to here your Drupal voice here, was beginning to think that the whole application had been discontinued :) More seriously, we did try to think through a social element of UMW Blogs using Drupal, but quite honestly we get a whole lotta functionality for over 3000 users with a simple plugin. And while BuddyPress is far from perfect, it gives us a number of options simply by dropping in a plugin. The larger question independent of WP or Drupal, is whether a social network in a community using either application will work—their seems to be so many other options out there, that I have actually not been pushing the social networking part at all. And the groups in BuddyPress—though quite underdeveloped compared to Drupal’s Organic Groups, provides some interesting ways to think about classes, but that is all still conceptual. I am taking BuddyPress low, and seeing if it has as much potential as I first imagined. I guess we’ll see, but the use of it is pretty much born of the fact we are using WPMu for this already.

]]> By: Bill Fitzgerald http://bavatuesdays.com/and-how-does-buddypress-fit-in-to-that-future/comment-page-1/#comment-83420 Bill Fitzgerald Sun, 18 Oct 2009 06:42:16 +0000 http://bavatuesdays.com/?p=4419#comment-83420 Hello, Mr. Groom, Just wanted to ask: given that the functionality you describe has been around in Drupal for, say, the last 18 months (being conservative here - it's probably been around for longer) why aren't you looking at Drupal for this? Toss in some Solr Search goodness, and it'd be tasty! Cheers, Bill Hello, Mr. Groom,

Just wanted to ask: given that the functionality you describe has been around in Drupal for, say, the last 18 months (being conservative here – it’s probably been around for longer) why aren’t you looking at Drupal for this?

Toss in some Solr Search goodness, and it’d be tasty!

Cheers,

Bill

]]> By: Andrea_R http://bavatuesdays.com/and-how-does-buddypress-fit-in-to-that-future/comment-page-1/#comment-83270 Andrea_R Sun, 11 Oct 2009 11:36:31 +0000 http://bavatuesdays.com/?p=4419#comment-83270 It's likely aggregation won't be rolled in as core, since it's more a feature not everyone woudl use / need. Thus plugin territory. The simplest explanation is a merge gives everyone less code to work with. WP.com is the business, and the way changes have been rolled in recently is like this: - wp.org gets updated - wp.com gets updated with the changes - wpmu gets updated Now, way way back, the process had those last two steps reversed a bit. After the merge, the work goes like this: - wp.org gets updated - wp.com gets updated with the changes See the difference? :) Donncha has said from the get-go, multiple times, that existing sites will be able to upgrade. (Duh, wp.com still has to run) Really, the only huge change is the name. Which Matt has said he's never liked. :D It’s likely aggregation won’t be rolled in as core, since it’s more a feature not everyone woudl use / need. Thus plugin territory.

The simplest explanation is a merge gives everyone less code to work with. WP.com is the business, and the way changes have been rolled in recently is like this:
- wp.org gets updated
- wp.com gets updated with the changes
- wpmu gets updated

Now, way way back, the process had those last two steps reversed a bit. After the merge, the work goes like this:
- wp.org gets updated
- wp.com gets updated with the changes

See the difference? :)

Donncha has said from the get-go, multiple times, that existing sites will be able to upgrade. (Duh, wp.com still has to run) Really, the only huge change is the name. Which Matt has said he’s never liked. :D

]]> By: Reverend http://bavatuesdays.com/and-how-does-buddypress-fit-in-to-that-future/comment-page-1/#comment-83267 Reverend Sun, 11 Oct 2009 06:20:16 +0000 http://bavatuesdays.com/?p=4419#comment-83267 I agree Phil, and I see no need for BuddyPress to be a core feature at all. I just thing it will be key to the direction of WP in terms of thinking through some of the other syndication stuff I am obsessed with. Sorry to make it seem I was advocating for BP as a core feature, that wasn't really my take. But I am arguing for some robust syndication features like FeedWordPress and the like to be built in, it just makes sense to me. But then again I am blinded by my own use cases. I agree Phil, and I see no need for BuddyPress to be a core feature at all. I just thing it will be key to the direction of WP in terms of thinking through some of the other syndication stuff I am obsessed with. Sorry to make it seem I was advocating for BP as a core feature, that wasn’t really my take. But I am arguing for some robust syndication features like FeedWordPress and the like to be built in, it just makes sense to me. But then again I am blinded by my own use cases.
]]> By: Philip M. Hofer (Frumph) http://bavatuesdays.com/and-how-does-buddypress-fit-in-to-that-future/comment-page-1/#comment-83265 Philip M. Hofer (Frumph) Sun, 11 Oct 2009 05:47:36 +0000 http://bavatuesdays.com/?p=4419#comment-83265 I enjoy reading that you are very fond of BuddyPress, however BP being integrated into WP/WPMU merge would not be the future of the WP/WPMU merge. The whole idea of having the ability to have plugins is so that people can have a choice. All of the functionality of BuddyPress can be done with Plugins. This gives people like myself have the ability to choose how they want it shown and displayed or even have the functionality in the first place. - Phil I enjoy reading that you are very fond of BuddyPress, however BP being integrated into WP/WPMU merge would not be the future of the WP/WPMU merge.

The whole idea of having the ability to have plugins is so that people can have a choice.

All of the functionality of BuddyPress can be done with Plugins. This gives people like myself have the ability to choose how they want it shown and displayed or even have the functionality in the first place.

- Phil

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