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	<title>Comments on: Changing Expectations</title>
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	<pubDate>Thu, 04 Dec 2008 19:08:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: alexanderhayes</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Jun 2008 13:00:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>More debunking happening here - http://edupunk.com.au</description>
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		<title>By: EDUNOISE at bavatuesdays</title>
		<link>http://bavatuesdays.com/changing-expectations/#comment-74281</link>
		<dc:creator>EDUNOISE at bavatuesdays</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 May 2008 22:14:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Posts on bavatuesdaysMay 31, 2008 -- Changing Expectations (2)May 30, 2008 -- Brian&#8217;s bliki and a history of EDUPUNK (3)May 29, 2008 -- BlogHer nails [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Brad</title>
		<link>http://bavatuesdays.com/changing-expectations/#comment-74278</link>
		<dc:creator>Brad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 May 2008 21:33:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>On the topic of this EDUpunk craze that's been festering:
I'm not sure if things that I've done in the past can be explained by this relatively new-fangled idea, but here's a little story for you:
Back in the day ("the day" here being when I was a senior in high school), I was introduced to the art of circuit-bending electronics by Math Horne, my old bandmate.  The concept was to take used toy instruments purchased from places like thrift stores &#38; Goodwill &#38; take them apart in order to tear open their insides &#38; re-wire.  Sometimes it worked better than others, &#38; often it would take hours to get a nice harsh noise working.  After one particular toy guitar had been re-invented so that it emitted completely manipulatable feedback-type noises (the manipulation came from dials that were soddered onto the wires themselves), Math spent an evening re-inventing its use.  What he did was use the "Talk" feature on Instant Messenger to communicate with "Trippy" Tim Whelden, a friend of ours who at the time was living in Thailand.  Instead of using a microphone, though, Math plugged in the circuit-bent toy &#38; let loose white noise over thousands of miles of internet wireless-ness.  Here's a recording that they spat out; it is completely live transmissions between Thailand &#38; Fredericksburg, VA recorded over the internet.  Tim is shouting &#38; hooting, while Math plays squeals &#38; other noises on the guitar.  The echo-effect &#38; reverberation comes from the fact that...well...the fact that the connection spans thousands of miles.
http://students.umw.edu/%7Ejminc5md/NSFTM-it_takes_a_world_of_thousands_of_miles_to_not_hold_us_back.mp3

if all of that isn't EDUpunk, then I may be confused about the term!
Either way, it's a very interesting concept, I think, the overt &#38; purposeful manipulation of all these different consumer electronics just to make a quick, joyous noise track!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><img style='float: right; margin-left: 10px;' src='http://www.gravatar.com/avatar.php?gravatar_id=d2ef5a39352183150566583b953bdb9c&amp;size=60&amp;default=http%3A%2F%2Fuse.perl.org%2Fimages%2Fpix.gif' alt='' />On the topic of this EDUpunk craze that&#8217;s been festering:<br />
I&#8217;m not sure if things that I&#8217;ve done in the past can be explained by this relatively new-fangled idea, but here&#8217;s a little story for you:<br />
Back in the day (&#8221;the day&#8221; here being when I was a senior in high school), I was introduced to the art of circuit-bending electronics by Math Horne, my old bandmate.  The concept was to take used toy instruments purchased from places like thrift stores &amp; Goodwill &amp; take them apart in order to tear open their insides &amp; re-wire.  Sometimes it worked better than others, &amp; often it would take hours to get a nice harsh noise working.  After one particular toy guitar had been re-invented so that it emitted completely manipulatable feedback-type noises (the manipulation came from dials that were soddered onto the wires themselves), Math spent an evening re-inventing its use.  What he did was use the &#8220;Talk&#8221; feature on Instant Messenger to communicate with &#8220;Trippy&#8221; Tim Whelden, a friend of ours who at the time was living in Thailand.  Instead of using a microphone, though, Math plugged in the circuit-bent toy &amp; let loose white noise over thousands of miles of internet wireless-ness.  Here&#8217;s a recording that they spat out; it is completely live transmissions between Thailand &amp; Fredericksburg, VA recorded over the internet.  Tim is shouting &amp; hooting, while Math plays squeals &amp; other noises on the guitar.  The echo-effect &amp; reverberation comes from the fact that&#8230;well&#8230;the fact that the connection spans thousands of miles.<br />
<a href="http://students.umw.edu/%7Ejminc5md/NSFTM-it_takes_a_world_of_thousands_of_miles_to_not_hold_us_back.mp3" rel="nofollow">http://students.umw.edu/%7Ejminc5md/NSFTM-it_takes_a_world_of_thousands_of_miles_to_not_hold_us_back.mp3</a></p>
<p>if all of that isn&#8217;t EDUpunk, then I may be confused about the term!<br />
Either way, it&#8217;s a very interesting concept, I think, the overt &amp; purposeful manipulation of all these different consumer electronics just to make a quick, joyous noise track!
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		<title>By: Mike Caulfield &#187; Blog Archive &#187; A short explanation from a terminal smasher</title>
		<link>http://bavatuesdays.com/changing-expectations/#comment-74272</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike Caulfield &#187; Blog Archive &#187; A short explanation from a terminal smasher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 May 2008 18:54:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] old, and it is already disturbing people. That&#8217;s very very, good. And the fact the article links to our little blog-ring here means that the article can say whatever it wants (and kudos to the [...]</description>
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