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		<title>By: jimgroom</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Jul 2007 13:38:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gardner,

Who is your first favorite director? I'm intrigued.  And, yes, I openly admit I was baiting you, but hey, I'm a redbaiter -it's what I do!

I think your assessment of the perceived failure of &lt;em&gt;Lolita&lt;/em&gt; is right on the mark.  But, I, for one, find the fact that Kubrick could not control this text to film translation quite interesting in and of itself. How could we frame &lt;em&gt;Lolita&lt;/em&gt; as a failure, and praise Eyes Wide Shut, it seems ludicrous to place these two films side-by-side.  &lt;em&gt;Eyes Wide Shut&lt;/em&gt;, for me, lays bare the core of Kubrick's style, i.e. to distill the acting to the least common denominator while controlling the space of the film all around the players. The scene between Nicole Kidman and Tom Cruise on the bed talking about the sailor while smoking a joint was so unbelievably bad.  I mean, it makes &lt;em&gt;Lolita&lt;/em&gt; look like the greatest film ever made by comparison.   

Also, I'm not so sure I agree with you about framing his choice of Cruise and Kidman as a bankable decision given the fact the the US version of the film was a far cry from risky or cutting edge in terms of sexuality. The film oozes of an auteur's auteur realizing that is what he might be understood as and engaging in the very filmic frivolity such a concept engenders over time.  &lt;em&gt;Eyes Wide Shut&lt;/em&gt; was a colossal let down -and examined alongside &lt;em&gt;Lolita&lt;/em&gt; you can get a really good sense of why it was.  Lolita is driven by the stalking presence of Quilty and the very "whacked-out improvisations" that you mention.  These moments make that film something other than the novel and more than just a character drama triangulated between Humbert, Lolita, and Charlotte Haze. He introduces a character that Kubrick could not seem to control and hence pushed his vision in unimagined directions, which is the very reason why it is one of my favorite Kubrick films.  You can't say this about &lt;em&gt;Eyes Wide Shut&lt;/em&gt; at all, the acting is lifeless and the beautifully controlled scenes frame the death of any real inspiration besides some beautifully lit shots (a kind of auteur's special effects fix).  

I know you're point that film can be thought generatively through a focused examination of a director's vision is an excellent one.  But at the same time it often seems contrived and limited -why is the vision of a producer, actor, cinematographer, writer, etc such a distant second these days.  Why does the framework of thinking film in relationship to a cultural moment (be it decades, genre, b-movies, etc.) often seem to be an afterthought? -or discussion-based filler? 

I do love talking with you about film, Gardner. And now that I know that you published in &lt;em&gt;Filmfax&lt;/em&gt; I am green with envy and overflowing with respect.  &lt;em&gt;Filmfax&lt;/em&gt; is without question my favorite read for film -insightful, at times irreverent, and often exercising on a intelligible level the very readings I have been promoting as of late. 

You're comments here make this conversation that much richer because you always keep me honest and your rigor is something I am writing towards more and more everyday.  Thanks for being a friend,  mentor, adviser, and downright mensch.</description>
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<p>Who is your first favorite director? I&#8217;m intrigued.  And, yes, I openly admit I was baiting you, but hey, I&#8217;m a redbaiter -it&#8217;s what I do!</p>
<p>I think your assessment of the perceived failure of <em>Lolita</em> is right on the mark.  But, I, for one, find the fact that Kubrick could not control this text to film translation quite interesting in and of itself. How could we frame <em>Lolita</em> as a failure, and praise Eyes Wide Shut, it seems ludicrous to place these two films side-by-side.  <em>Eyes Wide Shut</em>, for me, lays bare the core of Kubrick&#8217;s style, i.e. to distill the acting to the least common denominator while controlling the space of the film all around the players. The scene between Nicole Kidman and Tom Cruise on the bed talking about the sailor while smoking a joint was so unbelievably bad.  I mean, it makes <em>Lolita</em> look like the greatest film ever made by comparison.   </p>
<p>Also, I&#8217;m not so sure I agree with you about framing his choice of Cruise and Kidman as a bankable decision given the fact the the US version of the film was a far cry from risky or cutting edge in terms of sexuality. The film oozes of an auteur&#8217;s auteur realizing that is what he might be understood as and engaging in the very filmic frivolity such a concept engenders over time.  <em>Eyes Wide Shut</em> was a colossal let down -and examined alongside <em>Lolita</em> you can get a really good sense of why it was.  Lolita is driven by the stalking presence of Quilty and the very &#8220;whacked-out improvisations&#8221; that you mention.  These moments make that film something other than the novel and more than just a character drama triangulated between Humbert, Lolita, and Charlotte Haze. He introduces a character that Kubrick could not seem to control and hence pushed his vision in unimagined directions, which is the very reason why it is one of my favorite Kubrick films.  You can&#8217;t say this about <em>Eyes Wide Shut</em> at all, the acting is lifeless and the beautifully controlled scenes frame the death of any real inspiration besides some beautifully lit shots (a kind of auteur&#8217;s special effects fix).  </p>
<p>I know you&#8217;re point that film can be thought generatively through a focused examination of a director&#8217;s vision is an excellent one.  But at the same time it often seems contrived and limited -why is the vision of a producer, actor, cinematographer, writer, etc such a distant second these days.  Why does the framework of thinking film in relationship to a cultural moment (be it decades, genre, b-movies, etc.) often seem to be an afterthought? -or discussion-based filler? </p>
<p>I do love talking with you about film, Gardner. And now that I know that you published in <em>Filmfax</em> I am green with envy and overflowing with respect.  <em>Filmfax</em> is without question my favorite read for film -insightful, at times irreverent, and often exercising on a intelligible level the very readings I have been promoting as of late. </p>
<p>You&#8217;re comments here make this conversation that much richer because you always keep me honest and your rigor is something I am writing towards more and more everyday.  Thanks for being a friend,  mentor, adviser, and downright mensch.
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		<title>By: Gardner</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Jul 2007 22:35:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rats, the site has only part of the video. What's up with that?

At any rate, Kubrick's revision of the Icarus lesson proves he's an auteur's auteur. :)</description>
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<p>At any rate, Kubrick&#8217;s revision of the Icarus lesson proves he&#8217;s an auteur&#8217;s auteur. <img src='http://bavatuesdays.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />
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		<title>By: Gardner</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Jul 2007 22:33:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, and do dig &lt;a href="http://www.indelibleinc.com/kubrick/kubrick-dga.html" rel="nofollow"&gt;this video of Kubrick accepting the DGA's D.W. Griffith Award&lt;/a&gt; (since renamed): http://www.indelibleinc.com/kubrick/kubrick-dga.html</description>
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		<title>By: Gardner</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Jul 2007 22:30:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why did I put an apostrophe after Welles above? Who knows. Apostrophe abuse always gets me riled, so maybe it's karmic fate that I will now start screwing up my apostrophes. A B&#38;B host in England once shared with me, over a glass of sherry, his favorite example of apostrophe abuse, a sign that said,

Merry Christma's.</description>
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<p>Merry Christma&#8217;s.
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		<title>By: Gardner</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Jul 2007 22:27:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I'm way way behind, so I'm just now rising to take the bait here....

But here are a few quick thoughts, if I can manage quick thoughts about my second favorite director, Stanley Kubrick.

"Lolita" is a fascinating adaptation but a largely boring film for me, probably because it has none of the novel's erotic tension. That may be because James Mason isn't believably decadent, or it may be because Shelley Winters is so distractingly a parody of herself by that time. Also, I think it's important to note that Stanley was fully capable of a wry immaturity that doesn't suit this material very well. As Herr notes, when Kubrick is sophomoric, we mean a sophomore in *high school*.

Auteur theory is vital for just the reasons Brian enunciates. Also, Sarris never pretended that auteur theory was all we needed for film criticism. Kael wildly exaggerates Sarris's points so she can knock down a straw man. When Kael was right, she was oh-so-right, but more and more it seems to me she traded cleverness and a weirdly narrow critical vision for genuine insight all too often. And I used to *adore* Pauline Kael.

Auteur theory is also important for the reason my Milton professor in grad school said we practice biographical criticism: because we want to give thanks. Also, in a world where it's clear that we subscribe to the person, not the blog, isn't auteur theory relevant? (That's another way of saying what Brian said.) 

Here's another way auteur theory helps. Take a look at Robert Stephenson's adaptation of "Jane Eyre," the one starring Orson Welles. Then take another look and try to spot the scenes Welles' might have directed. The stylistic markers are quite prominent, as I have argued at length (and with stills from "Jane Eyre" and "The Magnificent Ambersons") in my article in "Literature/Film Quarterly" 31:1 (2003) 2-9. In that article, paradoxically, auteur theory makes the signs of directorial collaboration more visible.

I think Kubrick was trying to work out a very complex theory of dream, art, and sexuality in "Eyes Wide Shut." He cast Cruise and Kidman because they were highly bankable and could thus help him get the film made. His contract with Warner Bros. was outrageously permissive, but even WB would balk at a property like that unless bankability was involved. As it turns out, Cruise actually played hapless quite well, I think.

"Barry Lyndon" is a work of absolute top-flight genius, a tragedy on a level with anything ever committed to film in my view. Positively Sophoclean at times, but also with a very modern sense of irony. O'Neill is an ingenue--turnabout is fair play. What A Movie. Unbelieveable. Wow.

I collaborated with a friend in Richmond many years ago on a Kubrick article. (Filmfax, issues 77-79, 2000). Maybe I'll post it to my blog--I think I still have the typescript on my hard drive somewhere. I did Lolita, Strangelove, Barry Lyndon, and Full Metal Jacket. He did 2001, Clockwork Orange, and The Shining.

Hey, just found a draft of the piece. Here's what I said about "Lolita"--I'll have to watch the movie again to see if I agree with myself nearly eight years later. Can WP handle a super-long comment? Let's find out.

--Begin Filmfax Magazine excerpt--

First up, 1962's Lolita, the film that instigated Kubrickâ€™s move to England (according to biographer Vincent LoBrutto, a UK government deal called the â€œEady planâ€ allowed Kubrick generous cost write-offs, so he moved overseas for what turned out to be a permanent relocation). Impressed by Kubrickâ€™s growing reputation as a filmmaking prodigy, Vladimir Nabokov collaborated with him and producer Robert Harris in adapting Lolita to the big screen. Nabokovâ€™s exploration of Humbert Humbertâ€™s erotic and aesthetic obsession with nymphetsâ€“girls on the edge of pubertyâ€“was widely considered unfilmable. Indeed, the question â€œHow did they make a movie out of Lolita?â€ is the main hook for the filmâ€™s trailer. 

	So how did they make a movie out of Lolita? Largely by indirection, innuendo, double-entendres, and key omissionsâ€“and also by casting a sixteen-year-old (newcomer Sue Lyons) in the title role. (Nabokovâ€™s Lolita is twelve.)  The film shows no explicit sexual activity between Humbert (played by James Mason) and Lolita, although it clearly suggests it throughout. On the other hand, we do see Humbert and Charlotte Haze (Lolitaâ€™s mother, overplayed by Shelley Winters) in bed together, but poor Humbert suffers from impotence when heâ€™s in the clinches with Charlotte, so all we get are jokes about â€œlimp noodles.â€ Such winks and nudges to the audience fill the movie, and often become annoying. At times Kubrick seems to have concentrated so fully on the ironic and satiric aspects of Nabokovâ€™s book that the whole story is played as one long smutty joke. At other times, however, Kubrick uses long tracking shots, deep focus, and intricate blocking to build up cinematic detail and presence, and the film finds some gravity. The opening of the film, Humbertâ€™s murderous encounter with Clare Quilty (Peter Sellers), is particularly good in this respect.

	Depending on which account you read, Nabokov was either pleased or very displeased with Kubrickâ€™s adaptation, in which (again, depending on whom you believe) Kubrick either ruined Nabokovâ€™s carefully written screenplay or enhanced it with sharp, witty sexual satire. At any rate, the film is not one of Kubrickâ€™s finest. Aside from a few set pieces like the filmâ€™s opening, Lolita has long, tedious stretches of chirpy talk peppered with zany scenes (usually centered on Peter Sellersâ€™ whacked-out improvisations) so off the wall that they seem to belong in a different movie. The next time Kubrick aimed at sexual satire, in Dr. Strangelove,  he hit his target by firing in a different direction, at the Cold War policy of Mutually Assured Destruction. In Lolita we can see the outlines of Strangelove, but too often Kubrick seems to be fighting his material.</description>
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<p>But here are a few quick thoughts, if I can manage quick thoughts about my second favorite director, Stanley Kubrick.</p>
<p>&#8220;Lolita&#8221; is a fascinating adaptation but a largely boring film for me, probably because it has none of the novel&#8217;s erotic tension. That may be because James Mason isn&#8217;t believably decadent, or it may be because Shelley Winters is so distractingly a parody of herself by that time. Also, I think it&#8217;s important to note that Stanley was fully capable of a wry immaturity that doesn&#8217;t suit this material very well. As Herr notes, when Kubrick is sophomoric, we mean a sophomore in *high school*.</p>
<p>Auteur theory is vital for just the reasons Brian enunciates. Also, Sarris never pretended that auteur theory was all we needed for film criticism. Kael wildly exaggerates Sarris&#8217;s points so she can knock down a straw man. When Kael was right, she was oh-so-right, but more and more it seems to me she traded cleverness and a weirdly narrow critical vision for genuine insight all too often. And I used to *adore* Pauline Kael.</p>
<p>Auteur theory is also important for the reason my Milton professor in grad school said we practice biographical criticism: because we want to give thanks. Also, in a world where it&#8217;s clear that we subscribe to the person, not the blog, isn&#8217;t auteur theory relevant? (That&#8217;s another way of saying what Brian said.) </p>
<p>Here&#8217;s another way auteur theory helps. Take a look at Robert Stephenson&#8217;s adaptation of &#8220;Jane Eyre,&#8221; the one starring Orson Welles. Then take another look and try to spot the scenes Welles&#8217; might have directed. The stylistic markers are quite prominent, as I have argued at length (and with stills from &#8220;Jane Eyre&#8221; and &#8220;The Magnificent Ambersons&#8221;) in my article in &#8220;Literature/Film Quarterly&#8221; 31:1 (2003) 2-9. In that article, paradoxically, auteur theory makes the signs of directorial collaboration more visible.</p>
<p>I think Kubrick was trying to work out a very complex theory of dream, art, and sexuality in &#8220;Eyes Wide Shut.&#8221; He cast Cruise and Kidman because they were highly bankable and could thus help him get the film made. His contract with Warner Bros. was outrageously permissive, but even WB would balk at a property like that unless bankability was involved. As it turns out, Cruise actually played hapless quite well, I think.</p>
<p>&#8220;Barry Lyndon&#8221; is a work of absolute top-flight genius, a tragedy on a level with anything ever committed to film in my view. Positively Sophoclean at times, but also with a very modern sense of irony. O&#8217;Neill is an ingenue&#8211;turnabout is fair play. What A Movie. Unbelieveable. Wow.</p>
<p>I collaborated with a friend in Richmond many years ago on a Kubrick article. (Filmfax, issues 77-79, 2000). Maybe I&#8217;ll post it to my blog&#8211;I think I still have the typescript on my hard drive somewhere. I did Lolita, Strangelove, Barry Lyndon, and Full Metal Jacket. He did 2001, Clockwork Orange, and The Shining.</p>
<p>Hey, just found a draft of the piece. Here&#8217;s what I said about &#8220;Lolita&#8221;&#8211;I&#8217;ll have to watch the movie again to see if I agree with myself nearly eight years later. Can WP handle a super-long comment? Let&#8217;s find out.</p>
<p>&#8211;Begin Filmfax Magazine excerpt&#8211;</p>
<p>First up, 1962&#8217;s Lolita, the film that instigated Kubrickâ€™s move to England (according to biographer Vincent LoBrutto, a UK government deal called the â€œEady planâ€ allowed Kubrick generous cost write-offs, so he moved overseas for what turned out to be a permanent relocation). Impressed by Kubrickâ€™s growing reputation as a filmmaking prodigy, Vladimir Nabokov collaborated with him and producer Robert Harris in adapting Lolita to the big screen. Nabokovâ€™s exploration of Humbert Humbertâ€™s erotic and aesthetic obsession with nymphetsâ€“girls on the edge of pubertyâ€“was widely considered unfilmable. Indeed, the question â€œHow did they make a movie out of Lolita?â€ is the main hook for the filmâ€™s trailer. </p>
<p>	So how did they make a movie out of Lolita? Largely by indirection, innuendo, double-entendres, and key omissionsâ€“and also by casting a sixteen-year-old (newcomer Sue Lyons) in the title role. (Nabokovâ€™s Lolita is twelve.)  The film shows no explicit sexual activity between Humbert (played by James Mason) and Lolita, although it clearly suggests it throughout. On the other hand, we do see Humbert and Charlotte Haze (Lolitaâ€™s mother, overplayed by Shelley Winters) in bed together, but poor Humbert suffers from impotence when heâ€™s in the clinches with Charlotte, so all we get are jokes about â€œlimp noodles.â€ Such winks and nudges to the audience fill the movie, and often become annoying. At times Kubrick seems to have concentrated so fully on the ironic and satiric aspects of Nabokovâ€™s book that the whole story is played as one long smutty joke. At other times, however, Kubrick uses long tracking shots, deep focus, and intricate blocking to build up cinematic detail and presence, and the film finds some gravity. The opening of the film, Humbertâ€™s murderous encounter with Clare Quilty (Peter Sellers), is particularly good in this respect.</p>
<p>	Depending on which account you read, Nabokov was either pleased or very displeased with Kubrickâ€™s adaptation, in which (again, depending on whom you believe) Kubrick either ruined Nabokovâ€™s carefully written screenplay or enhanced it with sharp, witty sexual satire. At any rate, the film is not one of Kubrickâ€™s finest. Aside from a few set pieces like the filmâ€™s opening, Lolita has long, tedious stretches of chirpy talk peppered with zany scenes (usually centered on Peter Sellersâ€™ whacked-out improvisations) so off the wall that they seem to belong in a different movie. The next time Kubrick aimed at sexual satire, in Dr. Strangelove,  he hit his target by firing in a different direction, at the Cold War policy of Mutually Assured Destruction. In Lolita we can see the outlines of Strangelove, but too often Kubrick seems to be fighting his material.
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		<title>By: Brian</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jul 2007 23:34:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For the same reason I don't pick fights in biker bars, I won't even try to argue with you. And I really do basically agree with you on your larger point on auteur theory... and I wholeheartedly agree with so many of your tangential points... (damn right &lt;i&gt;The Shining&lt;/i&gt; is underrated, 'ahhh Buneul' indeed, and I had never really thought about your absolutely correct assertion about Kubrick's evident preference for shallow actors in his more ambitious films. I have a theory that Kubrick largely cooked up &lt;i&gt;Eyes Wide Shut&lt;/i&gt; to destroy Tom Cruise, -- and whatever the other circumstances, it did seem to work out that way...).

I'll push back on one small point -- "what does the auteur theory give us critically?" In a pure critical sense, I can't pretend it doesn't efface more than it gives us. But its prevalance points to its appeal. I like to think that the novel (or well-written memoir) is the single most powerful and supple means of one consciousness communicating with another. This whizbang technology we both groove on hasn't changed that. And when we are moved by a film, we want to connect with an author somewhere... or failing that, a star. Anyone who was holding it all together inside their head.

Certainly, from all the films and everything I've learned about Kubrick, that is one cat's consciousness I'd like to crack a little bit. I can't help but think my scope of living would grow as a result. 

Then again, I have no idea who would win a Kubrick vs. Sellers smackdown on enigmatic grounds.</description>
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<p>I&#8217;ll push back on one small point &#8212; &#8220;what does the auteur theory give us critically?&#8221; In a pure critical sense, I can&#8217;t pretend it doesn&#8217;t efface more than it gives us. But its prevalance points to its appeal. I like to think that the novel (or well-written memoir) is the single most powerful and supple means of one consciousness communicating with another. This whizbang technology we both groove on hasn&#8217;t changed that. And when we are moved by a film, we want to connect with an author somewhere&#8230; or failing that, a star. Anyone who was holding it all together inside their head.</p>
<p>Certainly, from all the films and everything I&#8217;ve learned about Kubrick, that is one cat&#8217;s consciousness I&#8217;d like to crack a little bit. I can&#8217;t help but think my scope of living would grow as a result. </p>
<p>Then again, I have no idea who would win a Kubrick vs. Sellers smackdown on enigmatic grounds.
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;The criminal and the soldier at least have the virtue of being against something or for something in a world where many people have learned to accept a kind of grey nothingness, to strike an unreal series of poses in order to be considered normal. Itâ€™s difficult to say who is engaged in the greater conspiracyâ€”the criminal, the soldier, or us.&lt;/blockquote&gt; Stanley Kubrick, 1958 interview (&lt;a href="http://www.visual-memory.co.uk/amk/doc/0106.html" rel="nofollow"&gt;link&lt;/a&gt; to a great series of critical approaches to Kubrick's &lt;em&gt;Lolita&lt;/em&gt;)

Brian,
You are right, I haven't read Kubrick by Herr, nor have I read Herr's &lt;em&gt;Dispatches&lt;/em&gt; -two for the queue, as always thanks to you (via Gardner). My understanding of Nabokov gave Kubrick a 400 page screenplay, of which he used only about 20% of, then reconfigured the narrative to have the confrontation with Quilty come first -an excellent choice. Nabokov may have been taken back at first, and perhaps a bit peeved that they would cut and re-written his masterpiece so extensively. Nabokov is reported to have acknowledged that Kubrick was a great director, "that his Lolita was a first-rate film with magnificent actors, and that only ragged odds and ends of my script had been used" (&lt;a href="http://www.nowtoronto.com/issues/18/05/Ent/film.html" rel="nofollow"&gt;link&lt;/a&gt;).

More than that, in terms of critical response Lolita was panned, Sarris thought it was cast all wrong (&lt;em&gt;what!&lt;/em&gt;), one of the few good reviews it received was from Pauline Kael. Interestingly enough, these are the two critics who went back and forth about auteur theory in the &lt;em&gt;New Yorker&lt;/em&gt;.  

I think one reason to focus on Sellers and Kubrick's &lt;em&gt;Lolita&lt;/em&gt; when discussing the problems of auteur theory may be because it is generally understood as one of his few critical failures.  Much ink has been spilt over whether he could visualize the literary genius of Nabokov, or his inability to capture the sexual tenor of the novel given the historical moment (which, ironically, I think Sellers character actually does brilliantly -as the clips above illustrate). All this to say, is that my favorite Kubrick (well, maybe my second favorite -my real favorite is &lt;em&gt;The Shining&lt;/em&gt; -another critical failure) is considered by many a minor work amongst critics, and there is much evidence to suggest that Kubrick felt the same way about it.  Why?  What makes this particular film a lesser Kubrick?  

Well, my very flawed argument would be because he couldn't fully control the actors and their performances -think about some of his greater films, &lt;em&gt;2001, Barry Lyndon, Eyes Wide Shut, and Full Metal Jacket&lt;/em&gt;- few if any of them have the same kind of performative imagination as &lt;em&gt;Lolita&lt;em&gt;, &lt;em&gt;Dr Strangelove&lt;/em&gt;, and &lt;em&gt;The Shining&lt;/em&gt;. Ryan O'Neill? Nicole Kidman? Tom Cruise? Matthew Modine? Come on, they are not even comparable with Sellers, George C. Scott, a younger Jack Nicholson, or the best performer of them all [[Danny Lloyd]]. 

I think the tag of genius or auteur is certainly arguable, and there is much to it when you view his films, but I think this concept fails to fully explain the power of his films, which for me is the larger point.  Not that there are not film auteurs, for there certainly are: Chaplin, Griffith, Welles, Hitchcock, Polanski, Melville, Goddard, Losey, Bunuel (ahh, Buneul -just think about his Mexican films and the idea of auteur as a construct of Western cinema (or even Kurosawa) -which is a post in and of itself -note to self), and many, many more I left out. But does thinking film through the frame of the auteur really give us much critically?  I don't know, I find it kind of pales in comparison to thinking Kubrick's Dr. Strangelove in relationship to &lt;em&gt;Fail Safe, The Day After, The Boy with Green Hair, Kiss Me, Deadly, Pick-up on South Street&lt;/em&gt; -not in its own little shrine of greatness. But, I'm not saying you are arguing this, nor am I anywhere near arguing a real point, just trying to grok the genius that is Brian Lamb :)</description>
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<blockquote>The criminal and the soldier at least have the virtue of being against something or for something in a world where many people have learned to accept a kind of grey nothingness, to strike an unreal series of poses in order to be considered normal. Itâ€™s difficult to say who is engaged in the greater conspiracyâ€”the criminal, the soldier, or us.</p></blockquote>
<p> Stanley Kubrick, 1958 interview (<a href="http://www.visual-memory.co.uk/amk/doc/0106.html" rel="nofollow">link</a> to a great series of critical approaches to Kubrick&#8217;s <em>Lolita</em>)</p>
<p>Brian,<br />
You are right, I haven&#8217;t read Kubrick by Herr, nor have I read Herr&#8217;s <em>Dispatches</em> -two for the queue, as always thanks to you (via Gardner). My understanding of Nabokov gave Kubrick a 400 page screenplay, of which he used only about 20% of, then reconfigured the narrative to have the confrontation with Quilty come first -an excellent choice. Nabokov may have been taken back at first, and perhaps a bit peeved that they would cut and re-written his masterpiece so extensively. Nabokov is reported to have acknowledged that Kubrick was a great director, &#8220;that his Lolita was a first-rate film with magnificent actors, and that only ragged odds and ends of my script had been used&#8221; (<a href="http://www.nowtoronto.com/issues/18/05/Ent/film.html" rel="nofollow">link</a>).</p>
<p>More than that, in terms of critical response Lolita was panned, Sarris thought it was cast all wrong (<em>what!</em>), one of the few good reviews it received was from Pauline Kael. Interestingly enough, these are the two critics who went back and forth about auteur theory in the <em>New Yorker</em>.  </p>
<p>I think one reason to focus on Sellers and Kubrick&#8217;s <em>Lolita</em> when discussing the problems of auteur theory may be because it is generally understood as one of his few critical failures.  Much ink has been spilt over whether he could visualize the literary genius of Nabokov, or his inability to capture the sexual tenor of the novel given the historical moment (which, ironically, I think Sellers character actually does brilliantly -as the clips above illustrate). All this to say, is that my favorite Kubrick (well, maybe my second favorite -my real favorite is <em>The Shining</em> -another critical failure) is considered by many a minor work amongst critics, and there is much evidence to suggest that Kubrick felt the same way about it.  Why?  What makes this particular film a lesser Kubrick?  </p>
<p>Well, my very flawed argument would be because he couldn&#8217;t fully control the actors and their performances -think about some of his greater films, <em>2001, Barry Lyndon, Eyes Wide Shut, and Full Metal Jacket</em>- few if any of them have the same kind of performative imagination as <em>Lolita</em><em>, </em><em>Dr Strangelove</em>, and <em>The Shining</em>. Ryan O&#8217;Neill? Nicole Kidman? Tom Cruise? Matthew Modine? Come on, they are not even comparable with Sellers, George C. Scott, a younger Jack Nicholson, or the best performer of them all <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Danny Lloyd">Danny Lloyd</a>. </p>
<p>I think the tag of genius or auteur is certainly arguable, and there is much to it when you view his films, but I think this concept fails to fully explain the power of his films, which for me is the larger point.  Not that there are not film auteurs, for there certainly are: Chaplin, Griffith, Welles, Hitchcock, Polanski, Melville, Goddard, Losey, Bunuel (ahh, Buneul -just think about his Mexican films and the idea of auteur as a construct of Western cinema (or even Kurosawa) -which is a post in and of itself -note to self), and many, many more I left out. But does thinking film through the frame of the auteur really give us much critically?  I don&#8217;t know, I find it kind of pales in comparison to thinking Kubrick&#8217;s Dr. Strangelove in relationship to <em>Fail Safe, The Day After, The Boy with Green Hair, Kiss Me, Deadly, Pick-up on South Street</em> -not in its own little shrine of greatness. But, I&#8217;m not saying you are arguing this, nor am I anywhere near arguing a real point, just trying to grok the genius that is Brian Lamb <img src='http://bavatuesdays.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />
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		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jul 2007 04:19:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I'll go out on a limb and bet you haven't read Michael Herr's memoir about Kubrick written shortly after his death. In it, I'd say there is a pretty compelling case that Kubrick might be one of the few directors worthy of auteur status... his attention to detail for one, but also his ability to forge a unified creative consciousness in which the diverse visions of his many collaborators are co-opted a bit... but mostly he seemed to bend even very gifted artists into buying in to his vision, almost by force of will. Herr (who wrote the most wildly hallucinatory and perhaps the best book about Vietnam) describes Kubrick's power, largely exerted via dinner parties and marathon phone conversations, first-hand. It's an amazing book -- Gardner turned me on to it.

Sellers is an interesting case WRT to Kubrick. If memory serves, Kubrick gave him a much wider berth than most of his collaborators. In part, I think it was because they seemed to share a certain bent sensibility (their shared affection for Strangelove screenwriter Terry Southern might allow us to triangulate where those points were). 

And with Kubrick, Sellers actually was willing to rein in a little bit and be part of a larger organic whole. From Seller's perspective, his work with Kubrick is interesting as it makes up about half of his onscreen work (what I have seen, anyway) that even comes close to living up to his evident genius. For the most part, his films are very disappointing (and I so want to like them, I am a huge admirer of his style) most of the time... In this post you pretty much name all his work worth checking out -- though I do maintain a certain fondness for the flawed insanity of the Southern-penned *The Magic Christian*. I've never quite cracked his earlier work on The Goon Show, the cultural gaps have been so wide... I'd love to take another shot at getting that stuff.

Good on you for focusing on Seller's performance as Quilty -- it too often gets forgotten next to his multi-character turn in Strangelove. He takes an extraordinary literary phantom and brings him into life, not trying to recreate the uncanny sense Nabokov gives him, but cranking up the decadent weirdness. That opening scene of Kubrick's Lolita is hilarious, some of the best black comedy ever filmed.

Nabokov got the screenwriter credit -- do you know anything about his relationship to this mix?

Great post, as with most of your other recent stuff. As ever, I am overcome with admiration. Go Jim Go!</description>
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<p>Sellers is an interesting case WRT to Kubrick. If memory serves, Kubrick gave him a much wider berth than most of his collaborators. In part, I think it was because they seemed to share a certain bent sensibility (their shared affection for Strangelove screenwriter Terry Southern might allow us to triangulate where those points were). </p>
<p>And with Kubrick, Sellers actually was willing to rein in a little bit and be part of a larger organic whole. From Seller&#8217;s perspective, his work with Kubrick is interesting as it makes up about half of his onscreen work (what I have seen, anyway) that even comes close to living up to his evident genius. For the most part, his films are very disappointing (and I so want to like them, I am a huge admirer of his style) most of the time&#8230; In this post you pretty much name all his work worth checking out &#8212; though I do maintain a certain fondness for the flawed insanity of the Southern-penned *The Magic Christian*. I&#8217;ve never quite cracked his earlier work on The Goon Show, the cultural gaps have been so wide&#8230; I&#8217;d love to take another shot at getting that stuff.</p>
<p>Good on you for focusing on Seller&#8217;s performance as Quilty &#8212; it too often gets forgotten next to his multi-character turn in Strangelove. He takes an extraordinary literary phantom and brings him into life, not trying to recreate the uncanny sense Nabokov gives him, but cranking up the decadent weirdness. That opening scene of Kubrick&#8217;s Lolita is hilarious, some of the best black comedy ever filmed.</p>
<p>Nabokov got the screenwriter credit &#8212; do you know anything about his relationship to this mix?</p>
<p>Great post, as with most of your other recent stuff. As ever, I am overcome with admiration. Go Jim Go!
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		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Jul 2007 19:24:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well looky looky who's back in the States!  It's good to have you back, and hey -you can finally enjoy a decent slice! Ireland is a beautiful place, but their not exactly known for their pizza now are they?

Thanks Shannon.</description>
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<p>Thanks Shannon.
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		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Jul 2007 19:12:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow, some films I have actually seen before! I really started to love Peter Sellers after watching "Lolita" and have seen several of his movies since. I wish I had words to describe why I love the character but, I'll just have to agree with all the things you have said in this post.
Reading your film posts is like a little film lesson and I'm starting to understand more and see connections between films and beyond films. Keep on spreading the good word Reverend!</description>
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Reading your film posts is like a little film lesson and I&#8217;m starting to understand more and see connections between films and beyond films. Keep on spreading the good word Reverend!
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