Comments on: EDUNOISE http://bavatuesdays.com/edunoise/ a "b" blog Fri, 19 Mar 2010 06:22:43 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: elisabeth http://bavatuesdays.com/edunoise/comment-page-1/#comment-74394 elisabeth Mon, 09 Jun 2008 16:03:56 +0000 http://bavatuesdays.com/?p=1019#comment-74394 I can see that I found an interesting time to dip my toe into edublogging- looking forward to seeing where things go! I can see that I found an interesting time to dip my toe into edublogging- looking forward to seeing where things go!
]]> By: Iggy Pops Alter Ego http://bavatuesdays.com/edunoise/comment-page-1/#comment-74297 Iggy Pops Alter Ego Sun, 01 Jun 2008 16:08:39 +0000 http://bavatuesdays.com/?p=1019#comment-74297 More fuel to the Edupunk Meme - http://edupunk.ning.com - More fuel to the Edupunk Meme – http://edupunk.ning.com

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]]> By: peter naegele http://bavatuesdays.com/edunoise/comment-page-1/#comment-74295 peter naegele Sun, 01 Jun 2008 12:44:03 +0000 http://bavatuesdays.com/?p=1019#comment-74295 @Brad: I think you hit it on the head....don't get caught up in the name, get caught up in the action. It's a <a href="http://prelectur.stanford.edu/lecturers/hofstadter/" rel="nofollow">strange loop</a> because it's edupunk to <i>not</i> want to be called edupunk. @Brad: I think you hit it on the head….don’t get caught up in the name, get caught up in the action.

It’s a strange loop because it’s edupunk to not want to be called edupunk.

]]> By: Brad http://bavatuesdays.com/edunoise/comment-page-1/#comment-74290 Brad Sun, 01 Jun 2008 03:18:44 +0000 http://bavatuesdays.com/?p=1019#comment-74290 Dr. Campbell your points are all entirely valid, & I for one would not be one to stand up for the term "punk" at any time; I think it's both dated & obsolete right now in terms of language. I say let the ideas (or the music, in this instance) speak for itself, & if you must coin something, at the very least be able to explain the motives behind it. Words are words, I say, & if your actions aren't going to fall in line behind them, then what good are they? Here is something Ted, a friend of mine from back home, once wrote on the issue of "punk": punk is about looking people in the eye. it's about having lifelong friends, and going to friends shows, supporting those whom you care about most. it's about challenging every convention, even challenging the challenges. it's about creating new things, pushing boundaries, giving homages, and shocking people with things they've never seen before, and never thought of. my favorite all time thing about punk is something guy picciotto once said. ill paraphrase it: 'i feel like what happened with hardcore or whatever is things just got so ritualized that people just slipped on some clothes, or a mask, or an attitude, and that was it. it was like 'we'll just go to shows, dance like this, and that's punk rock'. but for me, it's a life thing, and if it's going to be that, it has to be constantly moving forward, and constantly changing. if people get unsettled by what we do, i'm ready to really unsettle people' punk is NOT about tradition, or rituals. mosh is not punk. three chords are not punk. punk is doing what people expect you NOT to do. punk is cellos. punk is inviting the audience to play with you. punk is everything you think it's not. END QUOTE. Dr. Campbell your points are all entirely valid, & I for one would not be one to stand up for the term “punk” at any time; I think it’s both dated & obsolete right now in terms of language. I say let the ideas (or the music, in this instance) speak for itself, & if you must coin something, at the very least be able to explain the motives behind it. Words are words, I say, & if your actions aren’t going to fall in line behind them, then what good are they?
Here is something Ted, a friend of mine from back home, once wrote on the issue of “punk”:

punk is about looking people in the eye. it’s about having lifelong friends, and going to friends shows, supporting those whom you care about most. it’s about challenging every convention, even challenging the challenges. it’s about creating new things, pushing boundaries, giving homages, and shocking people with things they’ve never seen before, and never thought of. my favorite all time thing about punk is something guy picciotto once said. ill paraphrase it:
‘i feel like what happened with hardcore or whatever is things just got so ritualized that people just slipped on some clothes, or a mask, or an attitude, and that was it. it was like ‘we’ll just go to shows, dance like this, and that’s punk rock’. but for me, it’s a life thing, and if it’s going to be that, it has to be constantly moving forward, and constantly changing. if people get unsettled by what we do, i’m ready to really unsettle people’
punk is NOT about tradition, or rituals. mosh is not punk. three chords are not punk. punk is doing what people expect you NOT to do.
punk is cellos. punk is inviting the audience to play with you. punk is everything you think it’s not.
END QUOTE.

]]> By: peter naegele http://bavatuesdays.com/edunoise/comment-page-1/#comment-74285 peter naegele Sun, 01 Jun 2008 01:29:51 +0000 http://bavatuesdays.com/?p=1019#comment-74285 very cool! Might I add my own to the fray? My band, "Mercury Project" could be classified as educyberpunk in that the music is cyberpunk in style as well as having an educational aspect to it. We were approached by concert goers after a live performance in January who were surprised to have learned something about the space program as well as astronomy during the show. Obviously, we're a CC act and a few tracks are available via <a href="http://www.archive.org/search.php?query=mercury%20project%20AND%20mediatype%3Aaudio%20AND%20subject%3A%22Mercury%20Project%22" rel="nofollow">The Internet Archive</a>. Our next show is during <a href="http://www.ingenuitycleveland.com/" rel="nofollow">Ingenuity Fest</a> in Cleveland.....an edupunk event right down to the slogan: "create, celebrate, innovate". We also have the obligatory <a href="http://www.myspace.com/mercuryproject">myspace</a> if you would like more info. DIY or DIE: edupunk Pete very cool! Might I add my own to the fray?

My band, “Mercury Project” could be classified as educyberpunk in that the music is cyberpunk in style as well as having an educational aspect to it.

We were approached by concert goers after a live performance in January who were surprised to have learned something about the space program as well as astronomy during the show.

Obviously, we’re a CC act and a few tracks are available via The Internet Archive. Our next show is during Ingenuity Fest in Cleveland…..an edupunk event right down to the slogan: “create, celebrate, innovate”.

We also have the obligatory myspace if you would like more info.

DIY or DIE: edupunk

Pete

]]> By: Gardner http://bavatuesdays.com/edunoise/comment-page-1/#comment-74283 Gardner Sat, 31 May 2008 22:38:49 +0000 http://bavatuesdays.com/?p=1019#comment-74283 And I recall with great weariness the endless debates about whether The Police were punk. Or The Pretenders. Or REM, for that matter. Enough! or too much! Though it may be true that the road of excess leads to the palace of wisdom. Us Appalachian Scots-Irish diggers aren't sure. And I recall with great weariness the endless debates about whether The Police were punk. Or The Pretenders. Or REM, for that matter.

Enough! or too much!

Though it may be true that the road of excess leads to the palace of wisdom. Us Appalachian Scots-Irish diggers aren’t sure.

]]> By: Gardner http://bavatuesdays.com/edunoise/comment-page-1/#comment-74282 Gardner Sat, 31 May 2008 22:36:09 +0000 http://bavatuesdays.com/?p=1019#comment-74282 If "punk" stretches from "I Wish I Was A Mole In The Ground" and Sister Rosetta Tharpe's "Strange Things Are Happening Every Day" to psychedelic rock (which the late 70's punks rejected), but it won't stretch to include Steppenwolf, Tears for Fears, REM, or Steely Dan, then I guess I'm not at all sure what the word means. I fear it means simply "I like your politics" or (much, much worse) "I like your attitude." I always admired the idea of a guitar with a sign on it saying "This machine kills fascists." I always worried about it, too. Milton's guitar says "This machine considers fascists, takes a stand, but never forgets that good and evil are made of the same ingredients." At least, that's what I think I saw on his guitar the last time he rode through town. And is Dylan punk? If not, how can anyone be? If so, how could he be co-opted by a single label? He's pretty clear about all of that stuff in "Chronicles." As always, however, Brian clearly contains multitudes and invites us to do the same. Just wanna keep making daily records. If “punk” stretches from “I Wish I Was A Mole In The Ground” and Sister Rosetta Tharpe’s “Strange Things Are Happening Every Day” to psychedelic rock (which the late 70’s punks rejected), but it won’t stretch to include Steppenwolf, Tears for Fears, REM, or Steely Dan, then I guess I’m not at all sure what the word means. I fear it means simply “I like your politics” or (much, much worse) “I like your attitude.”

I always admired the idea of a guitar with a sign on it saying “This machine kills fascists.” I always worried about it, too. Milton’s guitar says “This machine considers fascists, takes a stand, but never forgets that good and evil are made of the same ingredients.”

At least, that’s what I think I saw on his guitar the last time he rode through town.

And is Dylan punk? If not, how can anyone be? If so, how could he be co-opted by a single label? He’s pretty clear about all of that stuff in “Chronicles.”

As always, however, Brian clearly contains multitudes and invites us to do the same.

Just wanna keep making daily records.

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