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	<title>Comments on: Imagining Cyberinsfrastructure</title>
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		<title>By: Bill Fitzgerald</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bill Fitzgerald</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Feb 2008 07:50:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Greetings, Mr. Groom,

Another great post -- lot's to comment on, but I'll save it for a full-out post on a day when I have more time -- 

But one thing came up in the comment thread in Tom's comment:

"I wonder if the fact that many professors go through life having their own content locked down and buried in various journals" and "Itâ€™ll be interesting to see what might change in teaching if the electronic options for professors start to change."

In an interesting accident of timing, Danah Boyd just put out a post where she announces that she will never post in a closed journal again, and calls on other academics to do the same.

http://www.zephoria.org/thoughts/archives/2008/02/06/openaccess_is_t.html

Cheers,

Bill</description>
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<p>Another great post &#8212; lot&#8217;s to comment on, but I&#8217;ll save it for a full-out post on a day when I have more time &#8212; </p>
<p>But one thing came up in the comment thread in Tom&#8217;s comment:</p>
<p>&#8220;I wonder if the fact that many professors go through life having their own content locked down and buried in various journals&#8221; and &#8220;Itâ€™ll be interesting to see what might change in teaching if the electronic options for professors start to change.&#8221;</p>
<p>In an interesting accident of timing, Danah Boyd just put out a post where she announces that she will never post in a closed journal again, and calls on other academics to do the same.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.zephoria.org/thoughts/archives/2008/02/06/openaccess_is_t.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.zephoria.org/thoughts/archives/2008/02/06/openaccess_is_t.html</a></p>
<p>Cheers,</p>
<p>Bill
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		<title>By: Of Chimeras, Tweets and Twittering at Bionic Teaching</title>
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		<dc:creator>Of Chimeras, Tweets and Twittering at Bionic Teaching</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Feb 2008 03:47:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] several different types of web publishing very well. I&#8217;m clarifying that here in part because Jim encouraged a post and in part because I got to use an interesting picture of a [...]</description>
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		<title>By: jimgroom</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Feb 2008 03:12:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for that link, that will be my easy listening for tomorrow's commute. I think the way the publishing logic is organized now certainly makes consideration of the cyberinfrastructure less than immediate for many, yet I wonder how long it will be before it becomes readily apparent as a necessity. Much of my thinking through this podcast, Brian Lamb's genius, and the several other projects is to start framing some of the stuff I have seen online that works along this aggregated bus structure, yet still provides professors and students with their own space.  Feeding into the project we are discussing.  The difference is the others are all using some philistine inspired application like Drupal, Moveable Type, or something godless like that, while we have the one true solution :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><img style='float: right; margin-left: 10px;' src='http://www.gravatar.com/avatar.php?gravatar_id=a3ce4e45c979a8523a2098808847fcc5&amp;size=60&amp;default=http%3A%2F%2Fuse.perl.org%2Fimages%2Fpix.gif' alt='' />Thanks for that link, that will be my easy listening for tomorrow&#8217;s commute. I think the way the publishing logic is organized now certainly makes consideration of the cyberinfrastructure less than immediate for many, yet I wonder how long it will be before it becomes readily apparent as a necessity. Much of my thinking through this podcast, Brian Lamb&#8217;s genius, and the several other projects is to start framing some of the stuff I have seen online that works along this aggregated bus structure, yet still provides professors and students with their own space.  Feeding into the project we are discussing.  The difference is the others are all using some philistine inspired application like Drupal, Moveable Type, or something godless like that, while we have the one true solution <img src='http://bavatuesdays.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />
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		<title>By: Tom</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Feb 2008 02:27:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ah, the pressure of being quoted.  I'll have to watch what I say more closely from now on. . . 

I wonder if the fact that many professors go through life having their own content locked down and buried in various journals impacts things like the decision to use CMSs.  I'm sure the way they have to live their lives in order to get published and get tenure really impacts how they teach and how they think about online publishing.

It'll be interesting to see what might change in teaching if the electronic options for professors start to change.  Here's the &lt;a href="http://2007.sxsw.com/blogs/podcasts.php/2007/05/" rel="nofollow"&gt; link to the SXSW podcast on &lt;em&gt;Web 2.0 and Semantic Web: The Impact on Scientific Publishing&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt; that starts to touch on some of those ideas.  It's been a while since I listened to it but if I recall correctly it has some really interesting points in terms of how academic publishing might be changed.  

Off to look for pictures of chimeras.</description>
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<p>I wonder if the fact that many professors go through life having their own content locked down and buried in various journals impacts things like the decision to use CMSs.  I&#8217;m sure the way they have to live their lives in order to get published and get tenure really impacts how they teach and how they think about online publishing.</p>
<p>It&#8217;ll be interesting to see what might change in teaching if the electronic options for professors start to change.  Here&#8217;s the <a href="http://2007.sxsw.com/blogs/podcasts.php/2007/05/" rel="nofollow"> link to the SXSW podcast on <em>Web 2.0 and Semantic Web: The Impact on Scientific Publishing</em></a> that starts to touch on some of those ideas.  It&#8217;s been a while since I listened to it but if I recall correctly it has some really interesting points in terms of how academic publishing might be changed.  </p>
<p>Off to look for pictures of chimeras.
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		<title>By: Gardner</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gardner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Feb 2008 22:08:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And if we don't engage our students in thinking about, and managing, data flows, we are depriving them of the meta-skill sets they will (desperately) need for the lives they will live from here on out.

Great post.</description>
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<p>Great post.
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