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		<title>By: &#8220;We aint one-at-a-timin&#8217; here, we&#8217;re mass communicatin&#8217;&#8221; at ELS Blogs</title>
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		<dc:creator>&#8220;We aint one-at-a-timin&#8217; here, we&#8217;re mass communicatin&#8217;&#8221; at ELS Blogs</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: jimgroom &#187; â€œWe aint one-at-a-timinâ€™ here, weâ€™re mass communicatinâ€™!â€</title>
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		<dc:creator>jimgroom &#187; â€œWe aint one-at-a-timinâ€™ here, weâ€™re mass communicatinâ€™!â€</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Jul 2007 04:17:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: jimgroom &#187; WPMu Smackdown: RSS, Autoblogs, Aggregators, o-matics, and moreâ€¦</title>
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		<dc:creator>jimgroom &#187; WPMu Smackdown: RSS, Autoblogs, Aggregators, o-matics, and moreâ€¦</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Jul 2007 04:13:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] thing worth mentioning are the experiments with WP-Autoblog for WPMu (I talked about it briefly here). This plugin has really afforded some very interesting versatility for class blogs, in my opinion. [...]</description>
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		<dc:creator>WPMu Smackdown: RSS, Autoblogs, Aggregators, o-matics, and moreâ€¦ at ELS Blogs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jul 2007 22:43:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] thing worth mentioning are the experiments with WP-Autoblog for WPMu (I talked about it briefly here). This plugin has really afforded some very interesting versatility for class blogs, in my opinion. [...]</description>
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		<title>By: WPMu Smackdown: RSS, Autoblogs, Aggregators, o-matics, and more&#8230; at bavatuesdays</title>
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		<dc:creator>WPMu Smackdown: RSS, Autoblogs, Aggregators, o-matics, and more&#8230; at bavatuesdays</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jul 2007 21:42:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: jimgroom</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jun 2007 02:46:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mike,

I fully agree with you that WPMu offers a loose space of experimentation for students, while at the same time framing a very specific community that is not so portal or CMS based.  This space is a platform, as you noted, not an application.  The WP-autoblog is cool because they can use a whole bunch of blogs to highlight different features of their work, aggregate the work of others they want to follow, or even bring in feeds from anywhere on the web with RSS.  Moreover, they can export them all as one big user file and take it with them when they go.  The looseness you describe might very well be the key -and the WP-autoblog solution is nice -I personally prefer WP-o_Matic- but they do the same thing in the end.  Moreover, WPMu is no longer about content management as we traditionally understand it -it is about using the web as a repository and making connections and drawing in resources, not building an impregnable resource.  Web 2.0 is about surfaces in the Foucauldian sense -i.e., the relationships are not necessarily about drilling to the depths of meaning.  Rather, the web allows us to use the vast surfaces of information to draw connections, uncover resources, and trace patterns of thinking. In other words, to trace the relationship between statements that serve to create &quot;discursive formations&quot; that frame a particular web of understanding through a host of both planned, unintentional, and serendipitous relationships. WPMu, given the ability to aggregate anarchically, may allow for so many of these options.

As for files, makes students who want to upload documents, videos, images, etc -make them use google docs, youtube, flickr, and/or what have you.  The less stuff they put in the actual blog as a repository the less they have to lose. Also, WordPress works best when you are bringing multimedia, images, etc. into it from sources like flickr and YouTube.  Once they see how simple it is, they may also see the value for keeping all these things separate, but loosely joined. Additionally, the more they can manipulate access and openness to such resources the better off we all will be in terms of framing an accessible archive for teaching and learning (formally or not)  through a series of surface connections.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><img style='float: right; margin-left: 10px;' src='http://www.gravatar.com/avatar.php?gravatar_id=a3ce4e45c979a8523a2098808847fcc5&amp;size=60&amp;default=http%3A%2F%2Fuse.perl.org%2Fimages%2Fpix.gif' alt='' />Mike,</p>
<p>I fully agree with you that WPMu offers a loose space of experimentation for students, while at the same time framing a very specific community that is not so portal or CMS based.  This space is a platform, as you noted, not an application.  The WP-autoblog is cool because they can use a whole bunch of blogs to highlight different features of their work, aggregate the work of others they want to follow, or even bring in feeds from anywhere on the web with RSS.  Moreover, they can export them all as one big user file and take it with them when they go.  The looseness you describe might very well be the key -and the WP-autoblog solution is nice -I personally prefer WP-o_Matic- but they do the same thing in the end.  Moreover, WPMu is no longer about content management as we traditionally understand it -it is about using the web as a repository and making connections and drawing in resources, not building an impregnable resource.  Web 2.0 is about surfaces in the Foucauldian sense -i.e., the relationships are not necessarily about drilling to the depths of meaning.  Rather, the web allows us to use the vast surfaces of information to draw connections, uncover resources, and trace patterns of thinking. In other words, to trace the relationship between statements that serve to create &#8220;discursive formations&#8221; that frame a particular web of understanding through a host of both planned, unintentional, and serendipitous relationships. WPMu, given the ability to aggregate anarchically, may allow for so many of these options.</p>
<p>As for files, makes students who want to upload documents, videos, images, etc -make them use google docs, youtube, flickr, and/or what have you.  The less stuff they put in the actual blog as a repository the less they have to lose. Also, WordPress works best when you are bringing multimedia, images, etc. into it from sources like flickr and YouTube.  Once they see how simple it is, they may also see the value for keeping all these things separate, but loosely joined. Additionally, the more they can manipulate access and openness to such resources the better off we all will be in terms of framing an accessible archive for teaching and learning (formally or not)  through a series of surface connections.
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		<title>By: Mike Caulfield</title>
		<link>http://bavatuesdays.com/mass-communicatin/comment-page-1/#comment-15159</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike Caulfield</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jun 2007 15:54:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OK -- I&#039;ve been meaning to get back to you about this -- but haven&#039;t got back to try the aggregators you mention.
.
But you are right (that is, if I understand your comment on my post) that the aggregators could do a lot of ePortfolio work. That is the students have their blogs, which feed into a meta-blog, and the meta-blog can get tagged (and hopefully pruned?). No need to prepopulate category tags, because the tags happen in the meta-blog.
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The one question is where files/attachments etc live. I imagine on the student blogs in the uploads dir?
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Now the larger comment -- this sounds wonderful. What you&#039;re doing here is creating a truly student centered system, and then using technology to tie the pieces together, rather than shoehorning them in. The system allows students to wander off the reservation if they want as well --- provided they can feed back, right? 
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It&#039;s a classic &lt;a href=&quot;http://mikecaulfield.com/2007/06/01/systemantics-thought-for-the-day-loose-systems-less-hostile-to-human-life/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;loose system&lt;/a&gt;, and a more humane one to boot.
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Will students be encouraged to use the same blog across multiple classes? That is, does this get finally to that unified view of the student that LMS (Elgg excepted) so often violate?
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Finally, not to start a drupal war, but I do feel like the emphasis on the personal that is built into wordpress -- I don&#039;t know, I should itemize it, but it just FEELS more humane than the CMS systems. CMS/LMS&#039;s feel like someone has prepared a small box where I will live. Wordpress feels like someone just gave me my own car.
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Or something like that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><img style='float: right; margin-left: 10px;' src='http://www.gravatar.com/avatar.php?gravatar_id=1d3da1e3852836dcb412d58879c66abc&amp;size=60&amp;default=http%3A%2F%2Fuse.perl.org%2Fimages%2Fpix.gif' alt='' />OK &#8212; I&#8217;ve been meaning to get back to you about this &#8212; but haven&#8217;t got back to try the aggregators you mention.<br />
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But you are right (that is, if I understand your comment on my post) that the aggregators could do a lot of ePortfolio work. That is the students have their blogs, which feed into a meta-blog, and the meta-blog can get tagged (and hopefully pruned?). No need to prepopulate category tags, because the tags happen in the meta-blog.<br />
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The one question is where files/attachments etc live. I imagine on the student blogs in the uploads dir?<br />
.<br />
Now the larger comment &#8212; this sounds wonderful. What you&#8217;re doing here is creating a truly student centered system, and then using technology to tie the pieces together, rather than shoehorning them in. The system allows students to wander off the reservation if they want as well &#8212; provided they can feed back, right?<br />
.<br />
It&#8217;s a classic <a href="http://mikecaulfield.com/2007/06/01/systemantics-thought-for-the-day-loose-systems-less-hostile-to-human-life/" rel="nofollow">loose system</a>, and a more humane one to boot.<br />
.<br />
Will students be encouraged to use the same blog across multiple classes? That is, does this get finally to that unified view of the student that LMS (Elgg excepted) so often violate?<br />
.<br />
Finally, not to start a drupal war, but I do feel like the emphasis on the personal that is built into wordpress &#8212; I don&#8217;t know, I should itemize it, but it just FEELS more humane than the CMS systems. CMS/LMS&#8217;s feel like someone has prepared a small box where I will live. Wordpress feels like someone just gave me my own car.<br />
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Or something like that.
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