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		<title>By: Mike Bogle</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike Bogle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Nov 2008 19:10:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I thought the flamethrowers and burning symposium participants was a fantastic touch!  There are several reasons for this too, really.  

First of all, you can&#039;t incorporate massive guns, zombies, loud music and fire into a presentation and leave people bored.  It was a really engaging tool.

Secondly I felt it was completely in line with the overall theme of the presentation.  You took the notion of a conceptual revolution and gave it a visual presence.  Plus the whole anti-authoritarian sensibilities of the edupunk movement are such that an in-your-face tone is quite relevant and appropriate.  Playing Mozart and speaking softly would have felt out of phase; images of Che Guavara, military dress and fire didn&#039;t feel out of phase.

Finally - and this has only just occurred to me - the use of fire could in some ways be thought of as a metaphor for change.  Fire takes existing structures and destroys them, and out of this new life is able to grow.  In Australia for example, the landscape has evolved to the point where fire is a requirement for growth.

So looking at it that way it was quite relevant in making your point.  Cast off standing conventions and expectations of what education is - or in this case burn them away - think creatively and act differently, like the Phoenix from the ashes so to speak :)

Besides you both burned yourselves too, so there was the sens of the entire Colosseum undergoing a Baptism of Fire. 

It was the best presentation I&#039;ve been to in a long time really - you guys did a phenomenal job :)  Thanks again!

Cheers,

Mike</description>
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<p>First of all, you can&#8217;t incorporate massive guns, zombies, loud music and fire into a presentation and leave people bored.  It was a really engaging tool.</p>
<p>Secondly I felt it was completely in line with the overall theme of the presentation.  You took the notion of a conceptual revolution and gave it a visual presence.  Plus the whole anti-authoritarian sensibilities of the edupunk movement are such that an in-your-face tone is quite relevant and appropriate.  Playing Mozart and speaking softly would have felt out of phase; images of Che Guavara, military dress and fire didn&#8217;t feel out of phase.</p>
<p>Finally &#8211; and this has only just occurred to me &#8211; the use of fire could in some ways be thought of as a metaphor for change.  Fire takes existing structures and destroys them, and out of this new life is able to grow.  In Australia for example, the landscape has evolved to the point where fire is a requirement for growth.</p>
<p>So looking at it that way it was quite relevant in making your point.  Cast off standing conventions and expectations of what education is &#8211; or in this case burn them away &#8211; think creatively and act differently, like the Phoenix from the ashes so to speak <img src='http://bavatuesdays.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Besides you both burned yourselves too, so there was the sens of the entire Colosseum undergoing a Baptism of Fire. </p>
<p>It was the best presentation I&#8217;ve been to in a long time really &#8211; you guys did a phenomenal job <img src='http://bavatuesdays.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />   Thanks again!</p>
<p>Cheers,</p>
<p>Mike
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		<title>By: Reverend</title>
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		<dc:creator>Reverend</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Nov 2008 16:43:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why thanks Mike, we appreciate it.  And, actually, I would love to get an audience member&#039;s perspective on the experience of being set on fire at the end of the show. I was wondering if it might offend some folks, or infuriate them. Yet, I haven;t heard anything about that yet---which means we aren&#039;t pushing hard enough :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><img style='float: right; margin-left: 10px;' src='http://www.gravatar.com/avatar.php?gravatar_id=a3ce4e45c979a8523a2098808847fcc5&amp;size=60&amp;default=http%3A%2F%2Fuse.perl.org%2Fimages%2Fpix.gif' alt='' />Why thanks Mike, we appreciate it.  And, actually, I would love to get an audience member&#8217;s perspective on the experience of being set on fire at the end of the show. I was wondering if it might offend some folks, or infuriate them. Yet, I haven;t heard anything about that yet&#8212;which means we aren&#8217;t pushing hard enough <img src='http://bavatuesdays.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />
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		<title>By: Mike Bogle</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike Bogle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Nov 2008 12:58:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Jim,

Just wanted to give you a huuuuuugggge thanks for the presentation.  It was a truly amazing production to witness and importantly carried a brilliant message too.  Just classic :)

Cheers,

Mike Bogle</description>
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<p>Just wanted to give you a huuuuuugggge thanks for the presentation.  It was a truly amazing production to witness and importantly carried a brilliant message too.  Just classic <img src='http://bavatuesdays.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Cheers,</p>
<p>Mike Bogle
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		<title>By: Zombies, Flamethrowers and Catfish at Bionic Teaching</title>
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		<dc:creator>Zombies, Flamethrowers and Catfish at Bionic Teaching</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Nov 2008 04:15:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] were zombies, flame throwers and a lot of madness1. Jim was in rare form and really justifying his Reverend moniker. It was a pleasure to listen to him [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Reverend</title>
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		<dc:creator>Reverend</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Nov 2008 23:24:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Scott,

This one had your name all over it, and if I wasn&#039;t a total idiot I would have talked about http://freelearning.ca when the qquestion of support came up.

The statement you made in &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.edtechpost.ca/wordpress/2008/10/27/bccampus-free-learning/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;this post&lt;/a&gt; about not caring who it belongs to was beautiful and inspiring. In fact, your logic in that post of others using your resources through another mapped domain has made me think longer and harder about the future of UMW Blogs. So thank you, you&#039;re one of the world&#039;s finest educational survivalists, and it is a pleasure to break bread with you in person and virtually.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><img style='float: right; margin-left: 10px;' src='http://www.gravatar.com/avatar.php?gravatar_id=a3ce4e45c979a8523a2098808847fcc5&amp;size=60&amp;default=http%3A%2F%2Fuse.perl.org%2Fimages%2Fpix.gif' alt='' />Scott,</p>
<p>This one had your name all over it, and if I wasn&#8217;t a total idiot I would have talked about <a href="http://freelearning.ca" rel="nofollow">http://freelearning.ca</a> when the qquestion of support came up.</p>
<p>The statement you made in <a href="http://www.edtechpost.ca/wordpress/2008/10/27/bccampus-free-learning/" rel="nofollow">this post</a> about not caring who it belongs to was beautiful and inspiring. In fact, your logic in that post of others using your resources through another mapped domain has made me think longer and harder about the future of UMW Blogs. So thank you, you&#8217;re one of the world&#8217;s finest educational survivalists, and it is a pleasure to break bread with you in person and virtually.
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		<title>By: Scott Leslie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Scott Leslie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Nov 2008 16:22:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;It&#039;s a question of &#039;How fearless can you be?&#039;&quot; Hallelujah, Rev, and Amen. This is, bar none, the BEST presentation I have seen in a long time, real life or Second life. An intervention, in every sense of the word. Bravo. Don&#039;t be surprised if this inspires a slew of other ed tech survivalists to come out of the closet...

And the Floyd homage at the end, awe inspiring! I am so glad they left the audio of you singing in at the end. Jim Groom, I love you man!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><img style='float: right; margin-left: 10px;' src='http://www.gravatar.com/avatar.php?gravatar_id=9c5f2d2b359f6f00504c6abedb1b17dc&amp;size=60&amp;default=http%3A%2F%2Fuse.perl.org%2Fimages%2Fpix.gif' alt='' />&#8220;It&#8217;s a question of &#8216;How fearless can you be?&#8217;&#8221; Hallelujah, Rev, and Amen. This is, bar none, the BEST presentation I have seen in a long time, real life or Second life. An intervention, in every sense of the word. Bravo. Don&#8217;t be surprised if this inspires a slew of other ed tech survivalists to come out of the closet&#8230;</p>
<p>And the Floyd homage at the end, awe inspiring! I am so glad they left the audio of you singing in at the end. Jim Groom, I love you man!
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		<title>By: Reverend</title>
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		<dc:creator>Reverend</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Nov 2008 00:45:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Meghan,

I blame all the shennanigans on your special man friend. I really wanted to do a straight talk with suit and tie, but he kept pushing and pushing. Sometimes he is a hard person to say no to, but in the end I guess he was right.</description>
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<p>I blame all the shennanigans on your special man friend. I really wanted to do a straight talk with suit and tie, but he kept pushing and pushing. Sometimes he is a hard person to say no to, but in the end I guess he was right.
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		<title>By: Meghan Woodward</title>
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		<dc:creator>Meghan Woodward</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Nov 2008 22:14:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I thought Tom was joking when he said this presentation involved zombies and setting people on fire...  When am I going to learn not to put anything past you two crazy EduPunks?  This was fantastic.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><img style='float: right; margin-left: 10px;' src='http://www.gravatar.com/avatar.php?gravatar_id=afc78424e3409544f1b63bebffc80927&amp;size=60&amp;default=http%3A%2F%2Fuse.perl.org%2Fimages%2Fpix.gif' alt='' />I thought Tom was joking when he said this presentation involved zombies and setting people on fire&#8230;  When am I going to learn not to put anything past you two crazy EduPunks?  This was fantastic.
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		<title>By: Alan Levine</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alan Levine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Nov 2008 20:39:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Tom- why stop at a presentation or some dances of Nonprogramistan? Why not create a virtual country or village? Make it a shrine to the motherland.

@Jared- I find most people who sit way on either side of the Second Life fence either spend way too much time there (the zealots) or are the ones who criticize it from the outside looking in. It is a virtual *world* meaning there is complexity, not something you surf like a web page. What we try at NMC to do is to provide rich experiences that counter both kinds of BS -- a stuning example is the experience of &quot;getting inside Macbeth&#039;s head&quot; -- http://virtualworlds.nmc.org/2008/10/08/macbeth/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><img style='float: right; margin-left: 10px;' src='http://www.gravatar.com/avatar.php?gravatar_id=876d6751f72fd4787ae953bb097af902&amp;size=60&amp;default=http%3A%2F%2Fuse.perl.org%2Fimages%2Fpix.gif' alt='' />@Tom- why stop at a presentation or some dances of Nonprogramistan? Why not create a virtual country or village? Make it a shrine to the motherland.</p>
<p>@Jared- I find most people who sit way on either side of the Second Life fence either spend way too much time there (the zealots) or are the ones who criticize it from the outside looking in. It is a virtual *world* meaning there is complexity, not something you surf like a web page. What we try at NMC to do is to provide rich experiences that counter both kinds of BS &#8212; a stuning example is the experience of &#8220;getting inside Macbeth&#8217;s head&#8221; &#8212; <a href="http://virtualworlds.nmc.org/2008/10/08/macbeth/" rel="nofollow">http://virtualworlds.nmc.org/2008/10/08/macbeth/</a>
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		<title>By: Jared Stein</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jared Stein</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Nov 2008 20:10:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Barry Dahl, I changed my mind. Second Life IS worthwhile. 

Now excuse me whilst I hunt down some Glasses of Truth for myself.</description>
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<p>Now excuse me whilst I hunt down some Glasses of Truth for myself.
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