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		<title>By: UBC Blogs &#187; Making WordPress work for UBC</title>
		<link>http://bavatuesdays.com/proud-spammer-of-open-university-courses/#comment-62793</link>
		<dc:creator>UBC Blogs &#187; Making WordPress work for UBC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Feb 2008 21:56:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] and I are doing for UBC Blogs matters to others outside of UBC. From reading posts on Brian Lamb Jim Groom and D&#8217;Arcy Norman&#8217;s blogs I knew that a lot of people were struggling with the [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] and I are doing for UBC Blogs matters to others outside of UBC. From reading posts on Brian Lamb Jim Groom and D&#8217;Arcy Norman&#8217;s blogs I knew that a lot of people were struggling with the [...]
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		<title>By: UBC Blogs &#187; Andre Malan&#8217;s Site Â» Making WordPress work for UBC</title>
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		<dc:creator>UBC Blogs &#187; Andre Malan&#8217;s Site Â» Making WordPress work for UBC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Feb 2008 21:48:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] and I are doing for UBC Blogs matters to others outside of UBC. From reading posts on Brian Lamb Jim Groom and D&#8217;Arcy Norman&#8217;s blogs I knew that a lot of people were struggling with the [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] and I are doing for UBC Blogs matters to others outside of UBC. From reading posts on Brian Lamb Jim Groom and D&#8217;Arcy Norman&#8217;s blogs I knew that a lot of people were struggling with the [...]
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		<title>By: Movable Type as an Open Content Toolset : Cole Camplese: Learning &#38; Innovation</title>
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		<dc:creator>Movable Type as an Open Content Toolset : Cole Camplese: Learning &#38; Innovation</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Feb 2008 20:02:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] its a personal content management system &#8230;&#8221; So as I watch D&#8217;Arcy, Brain, Jim, and David show off the work they&#8217;ve done and the excellent thinking they are sharing I was a [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Gluing it all together &#171; Learner Advocacy and Personalized Learning</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gluing it all together &#171; Learner Advocacy and Personalized Learning</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Feb 2008 12:26:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] it appears that the humble RSS can provide more of this glu than I&#8217;d thought. See this reuse of OU materials or the singing of praises to it on Abject [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] it appears that the humble RSS can provide more of this glu than I&#8217;d thought. See this reuse of OU materials or the singing of praises to it on Abject [...]
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		<title>By: Blogging IT and EDucation &#187; Blog Archive &#187; A rambling route through sites!</title>
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		<dc:creator>Blogging IT and EDucation &#187; Blog Archive &#187; A rambling route through sites!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Feb 2008 17:09:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] (It was one of the selling points of Elgg for me). I&#8217;d not realised that I need to have a spammers mentality. I rather liked Stephen&#8217;s reworking of Spam &#8230;  Self Propelled Academic [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Emma</title>
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		<dc:creator>Emma</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Feb 2008 16:04:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the pointer to that WP plugin ... I'd been looking for something like that for some time. 

I've currently got a WP blog - and have been importing the posts into an Elgg powered one (http://eduspaces.net/emmadw/weblog)
I'd been looking on/off for the option to post to the WordPress blog in the same way (really to prove that I could do it, rather than anything else!); however, never found it. (Probably was using the wrong search terms, as I searched for a RSS importer, rather than aggregator...) 

Now that the future of the Eduspaces is a little up in the air, I'm looking round. That said, I have no intention of moving the WordPress blog, nor, given that it's my only blog, would I have another one that I'd need to import. But it's nice to know I *can* should I wish to!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><img style='float: right; margin-left: 10px;' src='http://www.gravatar.com/avatar.php?gravatar_id=de2d4a090d6847e770b0737667f84944&amp;size=60&amp;default=http%3A%2F%2Fuse.perl.org%2Fimages%2Fpix.gif' alt='' />Thanks for the pointer to that WP plugin &#8230; I&#8217;d been looking for something like that for some time. </p>
<p>I&#8217;ve currently got a WP blog - and have been importing the posts into an Elgg powered one &nbsp;<a href="http://eduspaces.net/emmadw/weblog" title="http://eduspaces.net/emmadw/weblog" target="_blank">http://eduspaces.net/emmadw/weblog</a>)<br />
I&#8217;d been looking on/off for the option to post to the WordPress blog in the same way (really to prove that I could do it, rather than anything else!); however, never found it. (Probably was using the wrong search terms, as I searched for a RSS importer, rather than aggregator&#8230;) </p>
<p>Now that the future of the Eduspaces is a little up in the air, I&#8217;m looking round. That said, I have no intention of moving the WordPress blog, nor, given that it&#8217;s my only blog, would I have another one that I&#8217;d need to import. But it&#8217;s nice to know I *can* should I wish to!
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		<title>By: Bill Fitzgerald</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bill Fitzgerald</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Feb 2008 07:03:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello, Jim,

RE Mediawiki to Wordpress/Drupal/Feedreader -- Tony pointed this out somewhere on the intarweb, and I've been dying to try it ever since:

http://jimbojw.com/wiki/index.php?title=WikiArticleFeeds_Extension

And, @Tony, re Jim's comment: "Thanks for all the unbelievable goodness in this comments, and Brianâ€™s and on OUseful, amazing stuff you are working on for sure." -- Tony, I definitely need to echo that. I have a lot of catching up on Real Live Work to do tomorrow as a result of spending way too much time today reading back posts at OUseful.

Cheers,

Bill</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><img style='float: right; margin-left: 10px;' src='http://www.gravatar.com/avatar.php?gravatar_id=8fb18899aea12ce92e6032813c1955ce&amp;size=60&amp;default=http%3A%2F%2Fuse.perl.org%2Fimages%2Fpix.gif' alt='' />Hello, Jim,</p>
<p>RE Mediawiki to Wordpress/Drupal/Feedreader &#8212; Tony pointed this out somewhere on the intarweb, and I&#8217;ve been dying to try it ever since:</p>
<p><a href="http://jimbojw.com/wiki/index.php?title=WikiArticleFeeds_Extension" rel="nofollow">http://jimbojw.com/wiki/index.php?title=WikiArticleFeeds_Extension</a></p>
<p>And, @Tony, re Jim&#8217;s comment: &#8220;Thanks for all the unbelievable goodness in this comments, and Brianâ€™s and on OUseful, amazing stuff you are working on for sure.&#8221; &#8212; Tony, I definitely need to echo that. I have a lot of catching up on Real Live Work to do tomorrow as a result of spending way too much time today reading back posts at OUseful.</p>
<p>Cheers,</p>
<p>Bill
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		<title>By: jimgroom</title>
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		<dc:creator>jimgroom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Feb 2008 04:42:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Bill and Tony,

I wish I had the time to dedicate to these comments, damn new jobs and family :)

I actually don;t really see the mixing and matching of different courses using this model as a porblem.  All you would need to do in WPMu is pull the course in, delete the elements that came in as post that you don't want, then just reorder the posts by changing the time stamp.  Tom said as much ina post on Chris Lott's blog, and it would work perfectly.  Still extremely simple, and it is a way to remix several courses into one resources.  In fact, WP-o-Matic (to answer another question Tony) would let me pull in all the courses into on blog and work from there, or choose an handful of courses for one blog.  Automating the process of a blog for each course as it is set up now would be a little more difficult, but with WPMu, it definitely can be done. 

@Tony:
The MediaWiki as a content store pushed out to WordPress is something I have been thinking about for a while. We were throwing around the term Bliki, and the integration plugin for sign-on no longer works with 2.3.3 (or WPMu 1.3.3) but I think the code can be updated.  The real issue, as you point out, is pull the MediaWIki code into a WP post or page seamlessly on demand. I originally got the idea from a Typo3 extension that did this beautifully, they basically sued fcurl to pull in the html layer, and it looked good, we played with some possibilities of going the other way, i.e., WP to MediaWIki, but have yet to hit paydirt. I am glad you are interested in this possibility, because I have been excited about it for a little while, but just haven't found the plugin or the time to hunt down some one who could actually code it. 

I imagine it wouldn't be that hard, but that is where I quickly get out of my depth.  I would love to talk more about this and other issues you mention in more detail.  feel free to e-mail me jimgroom_at_gmail.com 

And as a fair warning, I may do the same to you sometime soon :) Thanks for all the unbelievable goodness in this comments, and Brian's and on OUseful, amazing stuff you are working on for sure. Brian has praised you up and down, and I'm glad to finally have the opportunity to join the chorus of accolades.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><img style='float: right; margin-left: 10px;' src='http://www.gravatar.com/avatar.php?gravatar_id=a3ce4e45c979a8523a2098808847fcc5&amp;size=60&amp;default=http%3A%2F%2Fuse.perl.org%2Fimages%2Fpix.gif' alt='' />@Bill and Tony,</p>
<p>I wish I had the time to dedicate to these comments, damn new jobs and family <img src='http://bavatuesdays.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>I actually don;t really see the mixing and matching of different courses using this model as a porblem.  All you would need to do in WPMu is pull the course in, delete the elements that came in as post that you don&#8217;t want, then just reorder the posts by changing the time stamp.  Tom said as much ina post on Chris Lott&#8217;s blog, and it would work perfectly.  Still extremely simple, and it is a way to remix several courses into one resources.  In fact, WP-o-Matic (to answer another question Tony) would let me pull in all the courses into on blog and work from there, or choose an handful of courses for one blog.  Automating the process of a blog for each course as it is set up now would be a little more difficult, but with WPMu, it definitely can be done. </p>
<p>@Tony:<br />
The MediaWiki as a content store pushed out to WordPress is something I have been thinking about for a while. We were throwing around the term Bliki, and the integration plugin for sign-on no longer works with 2.3.3 (or WPMu 1.3.3) but I think the code can be updated.  The real issue, as you point out, is pull the MediaWIki code into a WP post or page seamlessly on demand. I originally got the idea from a Typo3 extension that did this beautifully, they basically sued fcurl to pull in the html layer, and it looked good, we played with some possibilities of going the other way, i.e., WP to MediaWIki, but have yet to hit paydirt. I am glad you are interested in this possibility, because I have been excited about it for a little while, but just haven&#8217;t found the plugin or the time to hunt down some one who could actually code it. </p>
<p>I imagine it wouldn&#8217;t be that hard, but that is where I quickly get out of my depth.  I would love to talk more about this and other issues you mention in more detail.  feel free to e-mail me jimgroom_at_gmail.com </p>
<p>And as a fair warning, I may do the same to you sometime soon <img src='http://bavatuesdays.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> Thanks for all the unbelievable goodness in this comments, and Brian&#8217;s and on OUseful, amazing stuff you are working on for sure. Brian has praised you up and down, and I&#8217;m glad to finally have the opportunity to join the chorus of accolades.
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		<title>By: Bill Fitzgerald</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bill Fitzgerald</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Feb 2008 03:17:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Tony -- on &lt;a href="http://www.chrislott.org/2008/02/17/open-content-and-distance-teaching-and-learning/#comments" rel="nofollow"&gt;Chris Lott's blog&lt;/a&gt;, you say:

"From what I can tell, a lot of the oer material released to date as opencourseware is virtually unusable by anyone except sophisticated/experienced learners or maybe educators looking to reuse it (though how iâ€™m not sure)â€¦"

This is exactly what I mean when, in this thread, I say: 

"Right now, it take some technical chops to quickly and easily remix individual elements from different courses into one different course. I see this as a barrier to more widespread adoption of OERâ€™s."

The difficulty of recontextualizing content that is supposed to be Open Courseware is a barrier to more widespread adoption -- the Grazr techniques you describe work, but they are too technical/involved for  many users.

If the existing Open Courseware repositories allowed their content to be accessed via rss feeds as part of their normal procedures, more people would benefit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><img style='float: right; margin-left: 10px;' src='http://www.gravatar.com/avatar.php?gravatar_id=8fb18899aea12ce92e6032813c1955ce&amp;size=60&amp;default=http%3A%2F%2Fuse.perl.org%2Fimages%2Fpix.gif' alt='' />@Tony &#8212; on <a href="http://www.chrislott.org/2008/02/17/open-content-and-distance-teaching-and-learning/#comments" rel="nofollow">Chris Lott&#8217;s blog</a>, you say:</p>
<p>&#8220;From what I can tell, a lot of the oer material released to date as opencourseware is virtually unusable by anyone except sophisticated/experienced learners or maybe educators looking to reuse it (though how iâ€™m not sure)â€¦&#8221;</p>
<p>This is exactly what I mean when, in this thread, I say: </p>
<p>&#8220;Right now, it take some technical chops to quickly and easily remix individual elements from different courses into one different course. I see this as a barrier to more widespread adoption of OERâ€™s.&#8221;</p>
<p>The difficulty of recontextualizing content that is supposed to be Open Courseware is a barrier to more widespread adoption &#8212; the Grazr techniques you describe work, but they are too technical/involved for  many users.</p>
<p>If the existing Open Courseware repositories allowed their content to be accessed via rss feeds as part of their normal procedures, more people would benefit.
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		<title>By: Bill Fitzgerald</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bill Fitzgerald</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Feb 2008 00:44:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello, Jim,

Keep up the spamming!

I just put some thoughts up inspired by this post, and some of the others flying around the web: http://openacademic.org/news/oers-publishing-easy-part

Cheers,

Bill</description>
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<p>Keep up the spamming!</p>
<p>I just put some thoughts up inspired by this post, and some of the others flying around the web: <a href="http://openacademic.org/news/oers-publishing-easy-part" rel="nofollow">http://openacademic.org/news/oers-publishing-easy-part</a></p>
<p>Cheers,</p>
<p>Bill
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