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		<title>By: Andy Best</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andy Best</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Nov 2008 15:36:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This may seem way out of left-field. Growing up in the UK and then traveling in Asia all the time I hadn&#039;t really seen a lot of American Indie Cinema. 

One of the most Punk experiences I ever had was when I stumbled upon a Troma Film called &quot;Tromeo and Juliet&quot; on DVD here a couple of years back. This comment is more about the spirit of punk as opposed to any movement.

Anyhow, as I watched the movie I felt like the entire cast and crew were slapping me around the whole time. Amazing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><img style='float: right; margin-left: 10px;' src='http://www.gravatar.com/avatar.php?gravatar_id=3a184508df3d20c06845b07b7df5ebd3&amp;size=60&amp;default=http%3A%2F%2Fuse.perl.org%2Fimages%2Fpix.gif' alt='' />This may seem way out of left-field. Growing up in the UK and then traveling in Asia all the time I hadn&#8217;t really seen a lot of American Indie Cinema. </p>
<p>One of the most Punk experiences I ever had was when I stumbled upon a Troma Film called &#8220;Tromeo and Juliet&#8221; on DVD here a couple of years back. This comment is more about the spirit of punk as opposed to any movement.</p>
<p>Anyhow, as I watched the movie I felt like the entire cast and crew were slapping me around the whole time. Amazing.
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		<title>By: Mikhail</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mikhail</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Nov 2008 20:55:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;d add the Minutemen doc, We Jam Econo, X: The Unheard Music and Raymond Pettibon&#039;s bizarre Weatherman &#039;69 starring Kim Gordon, Thurston Moore, and Mike Watt (just because I want to see it).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><img style='float: right; margin-left: 10px;' src='http://www.gravatar.com/avatar.php?gravatar_id=e7ba4863942b63a5c23bbed50cb4c03b&amp;size=60&amp;default=http%3A%2F%2Fuse.perl.org%2Fimages%2Fpix.gif' alt='' />I&#8217;d add the Minutemen doc, We Jam Econo, X: The Unheard Music and Raymond Pettibon&#8217;s bizarre Weatherman &#8216;69 starring Kim Gordon, Thurston Moore, and Mike Watt (just because I want to see it).
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		<title>By: Mike Caulfield</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike Caulfield</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Nov 2008 21:08:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@jared -- Ha! maybe not interesting to someone in the area? Or maybe it was just a thing. 

The documentary Made In Sheffield should also be on these lists.</description>
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<p>The documentary Made In Sheffield should also be on these lists.
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		<title>By: Jared Stein</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jared Stein</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Nov 2008 17:37:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Rock N Roll High School&quot; has always held a special place in my heart.

&quot;Repo Man&quot;, too, is a killer killer film.

Mike mentioned &quot;SLC Punk&quot; but I thought that film was boring.</description>
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<p>&#8220;Repo Man&#8221;, too, is a killer killer film.</p>
<p>Mike mentioned &#8220;SLC Punk&#8221; but I thought that film was boring.
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		<title>By: Mike Caulfield</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike Caulfield</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Nov 2008 16:57:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Two great lists. Really interesting how British focused they are -- it reminds me of the differences. 

The ultimate commentary on US Punk is Repo Man, hands down. I don&#039;t know if it&#039;s the ultimate punk film, too self-aware really to be that. But it captures the punk culture in America brilliantly. It reminds me that the ultimate attribute of the punk is a tendency to be easily bored.

I agree with Brad that one film missing from either list is SLC Punk, which I thought was a great capturing of third-tier city punk -- it felt very much like people I knew, more than any other punk film I&#039;ve seen. And yeah, a but cheesy, but I&#039;ll admit it hooked me emotionally pretty good.</description>
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<p>The ultimate commentary on US Punk is Repo Man, hands down. I don&#8217;t know if it&#8217;s the ultimate punk film, too self-aware really to be that. But it captures the punk culture in America brilliantly. It reminds me that the ultimate attribute of the punk is a tendency to be easily bored.</p>
<p>I agree with Brad that one film missing from either list is SLC Punk, which I thought was a great capturing of third-tier city punk &#8212; it felt very much like people I knew, more than any other punk film I&#8217;ve seen. And yeah, a but cheesy, but I&#8217;ll admit it hooked me emotionally pretty good.
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		<title>By: Sebastian6</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Nov 2008 16:42:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Damn. That&#039;s a good schedule. I own a copy of Urgh!, which is out-of-print and keep going back to it every couple years. What a great mix of styles- OMD to Klaus Nomi to Echo &amp; the Bunnymen to Fear. You don&#039;t get mixtures like that anymore.

I think the ultimate L.A. punk film is &quot;Decline of Western Civilization.&quot; What an amazing movie. It made me fall in love with X and understand the Circle Jerks. It&#039;s interesting to see how these folks were really doing the same things British Squatters were doing. Who knew a cornerstone of the punk ideal is communal living? The strange schizophrenia of the I-dont-give-a-shit attitude mixed with the need for community is fascinating to watch. Darby Crash at home with his woman making dinner encapsulates that whole idea.

I stumbled on this clip from YouTube the other day and enjoyed it very much:

(guess we can&#039;t embed hehehe) - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c0IZdP3x66Y

ps. I&#039;m glad to see an actual documentary on Joy Division, probably my 2nd favorite band of all time. The dramatic film &quot;Control&quot; had its moments but lacked any sort of impact by simply being intolerably long and BORING.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><img style='float: right; margin-left: 10px;' src='http://www.gravatar.com/avatar.php?gravatar_id=d831790a7ec16e625e65d4945173e38d&amp;size=60&amp;default=http%3A%2F%2Fuse.perl.org%2Fimages%2Fpix.gif' alt='' />Damn. That&#8217;s a good schedule. I own a copy of Urgh!, which is out-of-print and keep going back to it every couple years. What a great mix of styles- OMD to Klaus Nomi to Echo &amp; the Bunnymen to Fear. You don&#8217;t get mixtures like that anymore.</p>
<p>I think the ultimate L.A. punk film is &#8220;Decline of Western Civilization.&#8221; What an amazing movie. It made me fall in love with X and understand the Circle Jerks. It&#8217;s interesting to see how these folks were really doing the same things British Squatters were doing. Who knew a cornerstone of the punk ideal is communal living? The strange schizophrenia of the I-dont-give-a-shit attitude mixed with the need for community is fascinating to watch. Darby Crash at home with his woman making dinner encapsulates that whole idea.</p>
<p>I stumbled on this clip from YouTube the other day and enjoyed it very much:</p>
<p>(guess we can&#8217;t embed hehehe) &#8211; <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c0IZdP3x66Y" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c0IZdP3&#215;66Y</a></p>
<p>ps. I&#8217;m glad to see an actual documentary on Joy Division, probably my 2nd favorite band of all time. The dramatic film &#8220;Control&#8221; had its moments but lacked any sort of impact by simply being intolerably long and BORING.
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		<title>By: Brad</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Nov 2008 16:37:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Officially used more Youtube videos in a single post than I ever have or will, congrats!  It will take days &amp; days to go through all of this, but I&#039;m determined to do it.
Some &quot;punk&quot; favorites of my own:
SLC Punk! (a little cheesy, but still entertaining)
Fight Club
Trainspotting -- which, actually, I don&#039;t like very much at all, but it&#039;s definitely a very punk film.
Instrument -- Fugazi documentary that essentially changed the way I thought about things in the music industry &amp; punk ethics.

Dang, you&#039;re right, there have to be hundreds more, I just can&#039;t think of &#039;em right now.  Good realm to explore though, without a doubt.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><img style='float: right; margin-left: 10px;' src='http://www.gravatar.com/avatar.php?gravatar_id=d2ef5a39352183150566583b953bdb9c&amp;size=60&amp;default=http%3A%2F%2Fuse.perl.org%2Fimages%2Fpix.gif' alt='' />Officially used more Youtube videos in a single post than I ever have or will, congrats!  It will take days &amp; days to go through all of this, but I&#8217;m determined to do it.<br />
Some &#8220;punk&#8221; favorites of my own:<br />
SLC Punk! (a little cheesy, but still entertaining)<br />
Fight Club<br />
Trainspotting &#8212; which, actually, I don&#8217;t like very much at all, but it&#8217;s definitely a very punk film.<br />
Instrument &#8212; Fugazi documentary that essentially changed the way I thought about things in the music industry &amp; punk ethics.</p>
<p>Dang, you&#8217;re right, there have to be hundreds more, I just can&#8217;t think of &#8216;em right now.  Good realm to explore though, without a doubt.
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