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		<title>By: Reverend</title>
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		<dc:creator>Reverend</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Sep 2008 22:04:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Nash:

Orwell is the perfect frame here, and scary is definitely the keyword.

@Christian:
Wow, an inside and informed view. I'm both glad and sad you bailed me out here. I was thinking this article might be percieved as far too one-sided in the "paranoia" department, I'm now even more concerned that it might be downplaying the issue. And the fact that it is happening in Germany, is pretty much an indicator that it's happening most places. "Stasi 2.0" that's a powerful play with what is often an idealistic meme, I kind of like it because it brings the questions of what is at stake with us online sharing---others have access to what we do. And, ironically, it is the sharing that scares those in power.  It is no coincidence I got this information from a site that covers bitTorrent, for they are in many ways at the front lines when it comes to questions of rights, constitutionality, and ownership of our cultural heritage.

As for the terrorism banner, it has set us back in regards to civil liberties about two hundred and thirty years. Nothing like an enemy you can't see or name or even imagine.  Just a shadow in the tubes, the perfect metaphor for the online world of control in my mind, funny how the two coincide.

Thanks for the awesome comment, Christian.</description>
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<p>Orwell is the perfect frame here, and scary is definitely the keyword.</p>
<p>@Christian:<br />
Wow, an inside and informed view. I&#8217;m both glad and sad you bailed me out here. I was thinking this article might be percieved as far too one-sided in the &#8220;paranoia&#8221; department, I&#8217;m now even more concerned that it might be downplaying the issue. And the fact that it is happening in Germany, is pretty much an indicator that it&#8217;s happening most places. &#8220;Stasi 2.0&#8243; that&#8217;s a powerful play with what is often an idealistic meme, I kind of like it because it brings the questions of what is at stake with us online sharing&#8212;others have access to what we do. And, ironically, it is the sharing that scares those in power.  It is no coincidence I got this information from a site that covers bitTorrent, for they are in many ways at the front lines when it comes to questions of rights, constitutionality, and ownership of our cultural heritage.</p>
<p>As for the terrorism banner, it has set us back in regards to civil liberties about two hundred and thirty years. Nothing like an enemy you can&#8217;t see or name or even imagine.  Just a shadow in the tubes, the perfect metaphor for the online world of control in my mind, funny how the two coincide.</p>
<p>Thanks for the awesome comment, Christian.
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		<title>By: Christian</title>
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		<dc:creator>Christian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Sep 2008 18:02:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Its worse than this article by the Piraten Partei might indicate, last year our fabulous Interior Minister Wolfgang Schäuble who seems to be haunted by ghosts came up with a fantastic idea: The Federal Trojan.


The German Constitutional Court tries to counter this but most Germans (me included) dont think that we can stop Schäuble in doing this. As it seems, the Trojan is already in use and was before it was officially announced. Thats why Schäuble is now called Stasi 2.0 

Of course they have the same bad excuse US politicians use as well: Counter terrorism. How ingenious...</description>
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<p>The German Constitutional Court tries to counter this but most Germans (me included) dont think that we can stop Schäuble in doing this. As it seems, the Trojan is already in use and was before it was officially announced. Thats why Schäuble is now called Stasi 2.0 </p>
<p>Of course they have the same bad excuse US politicians use as well: Counter terrorism. How ingenious&#8230;
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		<title>By: Cash Nelson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cash Nelson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Sep 2008 15:37:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is one of the scarier articles I have read in a while. It really makes you wonder how much of our life is really being watched. Skype conversations...is nothing sacred?! Winston Smith may have loved Big Brother, but I certainly don't.</description>
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