Comments on: Textbook Torrents Closes http://bavatuesdays.com/textbook-torrents-closes/ a "b" blog Fri, 19 Mar 2010 22:33:02 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: textbooks publishers http://bavatuesdays.com/textbook-torrents-closes/comment-page-1/#comment-80466 textbooks publishers Wed, 08 Apr 2009 21:59:53 +0000 http://bavatuesdays.com/?p=1715#comment-80466 I think that a torrent would be a great thing for college students who can't afford the expensive books but really bad for publishers. I think that a torrent would be a great thing for college students who can’t afford the expensive books but really bad for publishers.
]]> By: Reverend http://bavatuesdays.com/textbook-torrents-closes/comment-page-1/#comment-80339 Reverend Tue, 31 Mar 2009 17:30:05 +0000 http://bavatuesdays.com/?p=1715#comment-80339 Geekman, Wow, that's amazing, 100,000 users?! Also, I really like the idea that Textbook torrents are more about free and open learning online, than "criminal" minds hard at work to bring down publishers. Like you say, the vast majority of people do not want to steal music, movies, or books, they just want an easy way to get them delivered in a digital format. And given the media/publishing companies have been loathe to come up with solutions, pirates have. In fact, they are leading the way to innovation. Within a year or two their will be a large and popular Textbook torrent site that people pay to use---but they should pay much less and the possibility for only getting portions of a book, and mixing in free and open content should be there as well. The strangle hold of the text book industry over education is a nightmare, and it is actually refreshing to see "pirates" challenge that model--because it needs to be. And let's face it, there can be no question given the numbers above that there is a huge market there. Geekman,

Wow, that’s amazing, 100,000 users?!

Also, I really like the idea that Textbook torrents are more about free and open learning online, than “criminal” minds hard at work to bring down publishers. Like you say, the vast majority of people do not want to steal music, movies, or books, they just want an easy way to get them delivered in a digital format. And given the media/publishing companies have been loathe to come up with solutions, pirates have. In fact, they are leading the way to innovation. Within a year or two their will be a large and popular Textbook torrent site that people pay to use—but they should pay much less and the possibility for only getting portions of a book, and mixing in free and open content should be there as well. The strangle hold of the text book industry over education is a nightmare, and it is actually refreshing to see “pirates” challenge that model–because it needs to be. And let’s face it, there can be no question given the numbers above that there is a huge market there.

]]> By: Geekman http://bavatuesdays.com/textbook-torrents-closes/comment-page-1/#comment-80318 Geekman Mon, 30 Mar 2009 18:09:03 +0000 http://bavatuesdays.com/?p=1715#comment-80318 Just to update your numbers, by the time it went offline, Textbook Torrents had over 100,000 users after 20 months of operation. I do hope that Textbook Torrents will lead to more emphasis on free, open, and legal learning material. Illegal downloading is not sustainable, and appeals only to the limited group of students (supposedly) without morals. I believe the word you're technically looking for is "prosecute", although "persecuted" may be closer to the truth in the case of the RIAA. ~Geekman Textbook Torrents admin Just to update your numbers, by the time it went offline, Textbook Torrents had over 100,000 users after 20 months of operation.

I do hope that Textbook Torrents will lead to more emphasis on free, open, and legal learning material. Illegal downloading is not sustainable, and appeals only to the limited group of students (supposedly) without morals.

I believe the word you’re technically looking for is “prosecute”, although “persecuted” may be closer to the truth in the case of the RIAA.

~Geekman
Textbook Torrents admin

]]> By: Free Online Textbooks http://bavatuesdays.com/textbook-torrents-closes/comment-page-1/#comment-80199 Free Online Textbooks Tue, 24 Mar 2009 11:53:51 +0000 http://bavatuesdays.com/?p=1715#comment-80199 Regardless, the textbook publishers are in cahoots with most colleges and if you read up on the system..you will see just how deeply corrupt it is...all at the cost of a college student's education. Some kids have to work an extra job JUST to buy books that they might not need! Regardless, the textbook publishers are in cahoots with most colleges and if you read up on the system..you will see just how deeply corrupt it is…all at the cost of a college student’s education. Some kids have to work an extra job JUST to buy books that they might not need!
]]> By: » Sobre el conocimiento- OLDaily octubre 13/08 El Blog Boyacense: El sitio de referencia de tod@s l@s boyacenses http://bavatuesdays.com/textbook-torrents-closes/comment-page-1/#comment-76497 » Sobre el conocimiento- OLDaily octubre 13/08 El Blog Boyacense: El sitio de referencia de tod@s l@s boyacenses Sat, 08 Nov 2008 20:55:50 +0000 http://bavatuesdays.com/?p=1715#comment-76497 [...] La librería digital ha cerrado a los tres meses de abrir por un artículo sobre piratería de libros de texto online, que provocó un contraataque de las editoriales. ¿Provocará esto un “efecto hidra”: cierran uno, pero aparecerán otros 3 en su lugar?[L][C] [...] [...] La librería digital ha cerrado a los tres meses de abrir por un artículo sobre piratería de libros de texto online, que provocó un contraataque de las editoriales. ¿Provocará esto un “efecto hidra”: cierran uno, pero aparecerán otros 3 en su lugar?[L][C] [...]
]]> By: billso http://bavatuesdays.com/textbook-torrents-closes/comment-page-1/#comment-76191 billso Thu, 16 Oct 2008 00:46:34 +0000 http://bavatuesdays.com/?p=1715#comment-76191 I'm not surprised that TextbookTorrents has shut down. The stakes are a bit high for him, after all. That Espresso Book Machine does look like a nice idea. It's easier to ship reams of paper to Honolulu than boxes of books. I’m not surprised that TextbookTorrents has shut down. The stakes are a bit high for him, after all.

That Espresso Book Machine does look like a nice idea. It’s easier to ship reams of paper to Honolulu than boxes of books.

]]> By: Steven Egan http://bavatuesdays.com/textbook-torrents-closes/comment-page-1/#comment-76190 Steven Egan Wed, 15 Oct 2008 19:11:43 +0000 http://bavatuesdays.com/?p=1715#comment-76190 That kind of transaction model is something I'm hoping for. Then you aren't paying for access, but rather the printing of the book. I'm curious how it works with the legal stuff, but it would be interesting to have a place that offers printed versions of e-books and online resources that are freely accessible online. That kind of transaction model is something I’m hoping for. Then you aren’t paying for access, but rather the printing of the book. I’m curious how it works with the legal stuff, but it would be interesting to have a place that offers printed versions of e-books and online resources that are freely accessible online.
]]> By: Jon Mott http://bavatuesdays.com/textbook-torrents-closes/comment-page-1/#comment-76189 Jon Mott Wed, 15 Oct 2008 17:02:14 +0000 http://bavatuesdays.com/?p=1715#comment-76189 Interesting developments here . . . As publishers treat these sites like "spiders" instead of the "starfish" that they really are, they'll find (much like the hydra effect you refer to) that cutting starfish in half or into pieces, far from killing them, only makes more starfish. The challenge is creating a new sustainable future for open textbooks without traditional publishers as brokers. BYU's Bookstore just bought one of these: <a href="http://www.ondemandbooks.com/hardware.htm" rel="nofollow"> Espresso Book Machine</a>. Maybe the point of transaction isn't access / use, but printing? This is sort of like what Magnatune does, no? Interesting developments here . . . As publishers treat these sites like “spiders” instead of the “starfish” that they really are, they’ll find (much like the hydra effect you refer to) that cutting starfish in half or into pieces, far from killing them, only makes more starfish.

The challenge is creating a new sustainable future for open textbooks without traditional publishers as brokers. BYU’s Bookstore just bought one of these: Espresso Book Machine.

Maybe the point of transaction isn’t access / use, but printing? This is sort of like what Magnatune does, no?

]]> By: Steven Egan http://bavatuesdays.com/textbook-torrents-closes/comment-page-1/#comment-76174 Steven Egan Mon, 13 Oct 2008 19:36:06 +0000 http://bavatuesdays.com/?p=1715#comment-76174 I hadn't, thanks. I guess I should start making more pages on the Wikia wiki I made for this kind of stuff. http://edupunk.wikia.com I hadn’t, thanks. I guess I should start making more pages on the Wikia wiki I made for this kind of stuff. http://edupunk.wikia.com
]]> By: Reverend http://bavatuesdays.com/textbook-torrents-closes/comment-page-1/#comment-76172 Reverend Mon, 13 Oct 2008 18:59:50 +0000 http://bavatuesdays.com/?p=1715#comment-76172 Steven textbook Revolution is a great site, thanks for that link, I hadn't seen it before. Have you seen the Wikieducator project? They are doing something similar, with a pretty sharp focus on open and free resources for educators, it may be of some interest: http://www.wikieducator.org/Main_Page Steven

textbook Revolution is a great site, thanks for that link, I hadn’t seen it before. Have you seen the Wikieducator project? They are doing something similar, with a pretty sharp focus on open and free resources for educators, it may be of some interest: http://www.wikieducator.org/Main_Page

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