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		<title>By: Ideum Blog - Museum and Design News &#187; Blog Archive &#187; National Digital Forum: Day 2 - Opening the gates: new opportunities in online collections</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ideum Blog - Museum and Design News &#187; Blog Archive &#187; National Digital Forum: Day 2 - Opening the gates: new opportunities in online collections</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Dec 2006 19:12:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] If you read this blog regularly, you might remember that Seb presented via video conference in the New Web course that I taught in Victoria, BC a couple of weeks ago. Jim Groom did a great job of summarizing the presentation and discussion on his bavatuesdays blog, The Powerhouse Museum: The Name Says it All. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] If you read this blog regularly, you might remember that Seb presented via video conference in the New Web course that I taught in Victoria, BC a couple of weeks ago. Jim Groom did a great job of summarizing the presentation and discussion on his bavatuesdays blog, The Powerhouse Museum: The Name Says it All. [...]
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		<title>By: Seb Chan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Seb Chan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Nov 2006 22:33:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Jim

We did think about allowing tagging in Design Hub and we do actually have a keywords field in the database to make that happen but we found that when we started doing that (making our writers tag to start things off) we had a lot of problems with managing the diversity of words. If you go to a side menu category like GRAPHIC DESIGN you will see a row of four KEYWORD TYPES along the top - PEOPLE, MATERIAL, PERIOD, PLACE appear. Click on one of those and you get the keywords that have been assigned.

When you see these you'll get an idea of the problem we are going to face with broader tagging - mainly one of managing the diversity of terms and presenting them in a neat manageable way. PLACE is the most obiovusly problematic and you will find a mix of countires, cities, buildings and regionds.

Design Hub uses the same PHP/SQL backend and adds a CMS layer to the collection management system harvesting tools we have built to handle the collection object data. Design Hub is really supposed to be *another* way for niche users in the design field to access our collection (and that of others too).

We built our own custom CMS for Design Hub - its very simple and it was decided that making something very straitforward would give us the ability to build addons as required. We did look at Typo3 etc but found that we'd spend just as long configuring and tweaing as we would have done in building our own custom system. For my team it is really important that we have flexibility with these sort of open user-centric projects because, from painful past experience we have learnt that it is exceptionally difficult to predict what users will actually do - no matter how much paper based testing and actual user testing you do prior to launch. This is one of the biggest challenges facing the museum sector actually - we never have enough money to promote the projects we build - meaning that we have less ability to chanel *how* users use our product or *which* users use our product.

The 'related' articles and subject is one area which we are going to be working on a lot next year once we do some heat mapping of the interface - this is really where the university partnerships for the project start to kick in.

Cheers
seb</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><img style='float: right; margin-left: 10px;' src='http://www.gravatar.com/avatar.php?gravatar_id=6b15fd66833d20fed6e693252b5ac552&amp;size=60&amp;default=http%3A%2F%2Fuse.perl.org%2Fimages%2Fpix.gif' alt='' />Hi Jim</p>
<p>We did think about allowing tagging in Design Hub and we do actually have a keywords field in the database to make that happen but we found that when we started doing that (making our writers tag to start things off) we had a lot of problems with managing the diversity of words. If you go to a side menu category like GRAPHIC DESIGN you will see a row of four KEYWORD TYPES along the top - PEOPLE, MATERIAL, PERIOD, PLACE appear. Click on one of those and you get the keywords that have been assigned.</p>
<p>When you see these you&#8217;ll get an idea of the problem we are going to face with broader tagging - mainly one of managing the diversity of terms and presenting them in a neat manageable way. PLACE is the most obiovusly problematic and you will find a mix of countires, cities, buildings and regionds.</p>
<p>Design Hub uses the same PHP/SQL backend and adds a CMS layer to the collection management system harvesting tools we have built to handle the collection object data. Design Hub is really supposed to be *another* way for niche users in the design field to access our collection (and that of others too).</p>
<p>We built our own custom CMS for Design Hub - its very simple and it was decided that making something very straitforward would give us the ability to build addons as required. We did look at Typo3 etc but found that we&#8217;d spend just as long configuring and tweaing as we would have done in building our own custom system. For my team it is really important that we have flexibility with these sort of open user-centric projects because, from painful past experience we have learnt that it is exceptionally difficult to predict what users will actually do - no matter how much paper based testing and actual user testing you do prior to launch. This is one of the biggest challenges facing the museum sector actually - we never have enough money to promote the projects we build - meaning that we have less ability to chanel *how* users use our product or *which* users use our product.</p>
<p>The &#8216;related&#8217; articles and subject is one area which we are going to be working on a lot next year once we do some heat mapping of the interface - this is really where the university partnerships for the project start to kick in.</p>
<p>Cheers<br />
seb
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		<title>By: jimgroom</title>
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		<dc:creator>jimgroom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Nov 2006 16:01:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Seb,
Thanks for the clarification. The stuff you all are doing at the Powerhouse museum is quite impressive.  I really like the way the contextual search functionality integrates seamlessly with the articles in Design Hub via the sidebar links for related articles and subjects  -very intelligent architecture.  Are you thinking about allowing users to tag articles in Design Hub? Also, I would be interested to know if you are using the same combination of customized php/sql for the Design Hub project as you did on the main Powerhouse.com site? 

Finally (then I will leave you alone, I promise!), how do you control the workflow process for publishing in Design Hub? Do you have a customized CMS, or are you using something like Drupal, Typo3, etc.? Inquiring minds would love to know.  Thanks for sharing so much of the great work that is happening down under! 

Best, 
Jim</description>
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Thanks for the clarification. The stuff you all are doing at the Powerhouse museum is quite impressive.  I really like the way the contextual search functionality integrates seamlessly with the articles in Design Hub via the sidebar links for related articles and subjects  -very intelligent architecture.  Are you thinking about allowing users to tag articles in Design Hub? Also, I would be interested to know if you are using the same combination of customized php/sql for the Design Hub project as you did on the main&nbsp;<a href="http://Powerhouse.com" title="http://Powerhouse. " target="_blank">Powerhouse.com</a> site? </p>
<p>Finally (then I will leave you alone, I promise!), how do you control the workflow process for publishing in Design Hub? Do you have a customized CMS, or are you using something like Drupal, Typo3, etc.? Inquiring minds would love to know.  Thanks for sharing so much of the great work that is happening down under! </p>
<p>Best,<br />
Jim
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		<title>By: Seb Chan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Seb Chan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Nov 2006 09:55:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Jim

Thanks for the info on PodPress - actually I've been a bit slack in integrating the podcasts with our blogs - mainly because the podcasts were around well before the blogs. Rest assured PodPress will be set up next week!

Now, in answer to a couple of your questions.

Arms in our collection: In 1996 there was the &lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Port_Arthur_Massacre" rel="nofollow"&gt;Port Arthur Massacre&lt;/a&gt; that led to a lot of discussion and public policy action on gun control. Partially as a result of this and also because we no longer have a curator specifically trained and allocated to our substantial arms and armour collection, the museum has kept our apparently impressive collection of vintage arms in deep storage.

Love tokens: this was mentioned only because it is an example of about 150 objects that have had their 'research' enhanced by unsolicited public response/comment and the provision of extra information.

One thing I did neglect to mention in the talk (which was mainly because of time running out) was our &lt;a href="http://www.dhub.org" rel="nofollow"&gt;Design Hub&lt;/a&gt; project. Design Hub is a magazine style front-end for research and our design collection. It is also in the process of expanding to allow federated searching other great design collections from around the world.

I'm really glad you enjoyed the presentation!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><img style='float: right; margin-left: 10px;' src='http://www.gravatar.com/avatar.php?gravatar_id=6b15fd66833d20fed6e693252b5ac552&amp;size=60&amp;default=http%3A%2F%2Fuse.perl.org%2Fimages%2Fpix.gif' alt='' />Hi Jim</p>
<p>Thanks for the info on PodPress - actually I&#8217;ve been a bit slack in integrating the podcasts with our blogs - mainly because the podcasts were around well before the blogs. Rest assured PodPress will be set up next week!</p>
<p>Now, in answer to a couple of your questions.</p>
<p>Arms in our collection: In 1996 there was the <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Port_Arthur_Massacre" rel="nofollow">Port Arthur Massacre</a> that led to a lot of discussion and public policy action on gun control. Partially as a result of this and also because we no longer have a curator specifically trained and allocated to our substantial arms and armour collection, the museum has kept our apparently impressive collection of vintage arms in deep storage.</p>
<p>Love tokens: this was mentioned only because it is an example of about 150 objects that have had their &#8216;research&#8217; enhanced by unsolicited public response/comment and the provision of extra information.</p>
<p>One thing I did neglect to mention in the talk (which was mainly because of time running out) was our <a href="http://www.dhub.org" rel="nofollow">Design Hub</a> project. Design Hub is a magazine style front-end for research and our design collection. It is also in the process of expanding to allow federated searching other great design collections from around the world.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m really glad you enjoyed the presentation!
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		<title>By: Ideum Blog - Museum and Design News &#187; Blog Archive &#187; The New Web: Victoria, Canada</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ideum Blog - Museum and Design News &#187; Blog Archive &#187; The New Web: Victoria, Canada</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Nov 2006 05:21:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] While the heart of the week-long course was comprised of face-to-face discussions and small-group design &#8220;challenges,&#8221; we utilized a number of Web 2.0 technologies as well. Of course we had a blog (The New Web), a flickr pool, a set of del.icio.us bookmarks,Â  and even a Shelfari site for reference books. (The bookmarks are perhaps the most interesting resource that came out of the course, over 100 links in all.) Also added to the mix were two guest speakers joining us via video conference. Seb Chan from the Powerhouse Museum talked about their exciting Collections Database, which includes the ability for visitors to tag objects in the collection. Seb also shared with us the story behind their growing collection of blogs; fresh + new, Great Wall of China Blog, Views from the Sydney Observatory, and Free Radicals. Kevin von Appen who helped develop the Ontario Science Centre&#8217;s innovative RedShift Now website explained the connection between the museum floor and the RedShift site. (Kevin is presenting in the picture at the top of this post.) We also discussed the Science Centre&#8217;s recent posting of videos on YouTube (check out the plasma ball video). They are one of the first science museums in the world to do so. One the course participants, Jim Groom has put together a couple of detailed posts about each of these guest speakers in his Bavatuesdays blog. Take a look at The Powerhouse Museum: the Name Says it All and The Ontario Science Center&#8217;s &#8220;RedShift Now&#8221; Jim describes each video conference and discussion much better than I could. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] While the heart of the week-long course was comprised of face-to-face discussions and small-group design &#8220;challenges,&#8221; we utilized a number of Web 2.0 technologies as well. Of course we had a blog (The New Web), a flickr pool, a set of&nbsp;<a href="http://del.icio.us" title="http://del.icio. " target="_blank">del.icio.us</a> bookmarks,Â  and even a Shelfari site for reference books. (The bookmarks are perhaps the most interesting resource that came out of the course, over 100 links in all.) Also added to the mix were two guest speakers joining us via video conference. Seb Chan from the Powerhouse Museum talked about their exciting Collections Database, which includes the ability for visitors to tag objects in the collection. Seb also shared with us the story behind their growing collection of blogs; fresh + new, Great Wall of China Blog, Views from the Sydney Observatory, and Free Radicals. Kevin von Appen who helped develop the Ontario Science Centre&#8217;s innovative RedShift Now website explained the connection between the museum floor and the RedShift site. (Kevin is presenting in the picture at the top of this post.) We also discussed the Science Centre&#8217;s recent posting of videos on YouTube (check out the plasma ball video). They are one of the first science museums in the world to do so. One the course participants, Jim Groom has put together a couple of detailed posts about each of these guest speakers in his Bavatuesdays blog. Take a look at The Powerhouse Museum: the Name Says it All and The Ontario Science Center&#8217;s &#8220;RedShift Now&#8221; Jim describes each video conference and discussion much better than I could. [...]
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