Comments on: The Violence of Reproduction http://bavatuesdays.com/the-violence-of-reproduction/ a "b" blog Thu, 18 Mar 2010 19:50:40 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Jen http://bavatuesdays.com/the-violence-of-reproduction/comment-page-1/#comment-74619 Jen Sun, 29 Jun 2008 04:45:33 +0000 http://bavatuesdays.com/?p=1035#comment-74619 I've never come across that blog before. It's amazing. I sent it along to my mother in law who's a bit of a historian. I spent some time looking through the images. I also the the one called End of the Road was profound. Thank you for sharing. I’ve never come across that blog before. It’s amazing. I sent it along to my mother in law who’s a bit of a historian. I spent some time looking through the images. I also the the one called End of the Road was profound. Thank you for sharing.
]]> By: Reverend http://bavatuesdays.com/the-violence-of-reproduction/comment-page-1/#comment-74431 Reverend Fri, 13 Jun 2008 20:02:45 +0000 http://bavatuesdays.com/?p=1035#comment-74431 Sue, That is so cool that you bring up Taussig here, his <em>The Devil And Commodity Fetishism</em>, and his idea of magic as a site of resistance against colonialism and the ideas of reason and logic (of capital/colonialism) are really powerful. Great tie in here, I am going to have to re-visit Taussig. Sue,

That is so cool that you bring up Taussig here, his The Devil And Commodity Fetishism, and his idea of magic as a site of resistance against colonialism and the ideas of reason and logic (of capital/colonialism) are really powerful. Great tie in here, I am going to have to re-visit Taussig.

]]> By: Sue http://bavatuesdays.com/the-violence-of-reproduction/comment-page-1/#comment-74430 Sue Fri, 13 Jun 2008 19:32:38 +0000 http://bavatuesdays.com/?p=1035#comment-74430 Great image. It brings to mind some of the images in Michael Taussig's exploration of technology and culture at a similar period in time, esp. in writings on colonial phonography (where he's getting into tech and, as he puts it, "new theories of the senses circulating with new means of reproduction." 1993: 201.) Lots to be said here... Great image. It brings to mind some of the images in Michael Taussig’s exploration of technology and culture at a similar period in time, esp. in writings on colonial phonography (where he’s getting into tech and, as he puts it, “new theories of the senses circulating with new means of reproduction.” 1993: 201.)

Lots to be said here…

]]> By: D'Arcy Norman http://bavatuesdays.com/the-violence-of-reproduction/comment-page-1/#comment-74429 D'Arcy Norman Fri, 13 Jun 2008 17:32:10 +0000 http://bavatuesdays.com/?p=1035#comment-74429 I was struck by the headdress as well - reminded me of the Maxell ad... http://www.totalmedia.com/images/maninchair.jpg I was struck by the headdress as well – reminded me of the Maxell ad… http://www.totalmedia.com/images/maninchair.jpg
]]> By: Reverend http://bavatuesdays.com/the-violence-of-reproduction/comment-page-1/#comment-74428 Reverend Fri, 13 Jun 2008 17:17:40 +0000 http://bavatuesdays.com/?p=1035#comment-74428 Scott, Wow, I hadn't thought of the impact of the headdress flowing outwards from the "violence" of the phonograph, it made me look at the whole image again. Remarkable, and then to think of this as not so much as a shooting, as it is a sucking is strange as well. It actually make me think a bit about Thomas Jefferson's Notes on the State of Virginia. In one of the chapters, which he calls queries, he talks about digging up an Indian burial ground and thinking about preserving the skulls as a kind of compassionate gesture towards a group of people that were quickly disappearing. He was talking about a kind of archive for what was, and the idea of scientific preservation, and the mummification of a culture that was once so alive made th professor who was talking about the text rest on an idea that has haunted me since: "The Vioelnce of Reason." This was particularly potent in relationship to the early national period in the US, and the faith in reason, science, and a kind of human force of progress. ideas we are returning to with the science of memes and Jared Steel "Guns, Germs, and Steel" ---a kind of renaissance of this violence of reason and scientific social thought. Scott,

Wow, I hadn’t thought of the impact of the headdress flowing outwards from the “violence” of the phonograph, it made me look at the whole image again. Remarkable, and then to think of this as not so much as a shooting, as it is a sucking is strange as well.

It actually make me think a bit about Thomas Jefferson’s Notes on the State of Virginia. In one of the chapters, which he calls queries, he talks about digging up an Indian burial ground and thinking about preserving the skulls as a kind of compassionate gesture towards a group of people that were quickly disappearing. He was talking about a kind of archive for what was, and the idea of scientific preservation, and the mummification of a culture that was once so alive made th professor who was talking about the text rest on an idea that has haunted me since: “The Vioelnce of Reason.”

This was particularly potent in relationship to the early national period in the US, and the faith in reason, science, and a kind of human force of progress. ideas we are returning to with the science of memes and Jared Steel “Guns, Germs, and Steel” —a kind of renaissance of this violence of reason and scientific social thought.

]]> By: Scott Leslie http://bavatuesdays.com/the-violence-of-reproduction/comment-page-1/#comment-74427 Scott Leslie Fri, 13 Jun 2008 16:45:25 +0000 http://bavatuesdays.com/?p=1035#comment-74427 It is fascinating on so many levels - the visual pun going on (not intentional I don't think) of the lines of the phonograph and his headress flowing outwards, as if you were witnessing an indigenous person being subjected to a blast of sound from modern white culture, yet what is actually transpiring being a *recording*. Violence indeed (great caption Jim, thanks for pointing to this). It is fascinating on so many levels – the visual pun going on (not intentional I don’t think) of the lines of the phonograph and his headress flowing outwards, as if you were witnessing an indigenous person being subjected to a blast of sound from modern white culture, yet what is actually transpiring being a *recording*. Violence indeed (great caption Jim, thanks for pointing to this).
]]> By: D'Arcy Norman http://bavatuesdays.com/the-violence-of-reproduction/comment-page-1/#comment-74426 D'Arcy Norman Fri, 13 Jun 2008 16:36:53 +0000 http://bavatuesdays.com/?p=1035#comment-74426 Yeah. Shorpy's been a real eyeopener for me. We think we have things bad when the internet runs too slowly, or it takes a few minutes to get a venti latte in the morning. People have flourished through much more severe hardships than us, without complaining so loudly in 140 character updates... Yeah. Shorpy’s been a real eyeopener for me. We think we have things bad when the internet runs too slowly, or it takes a few minutes to get a venti latte in the morning. People have flourished through much more severe hardships than us, without complaining so loudly in 140 character updates…
]]> By: Reverend http://bavatuesdays.com/the-violence-of-reproduction/comment-page-1/#comment-74425 Reverend Fri, 13 Jun 2008 16:23:28 +0000 http://bavatuesdays.com/?p=1035#comment-74425 Yeah, I couldn't agree with you more D'Arcy. The phonograph as musket is really haunting, and the way in which the ethnography is not looking at him in this image, but the technology is so wild to me. This image blows my mind, as does the other one recently on Shorpy entitled "Waiting:" http://www.shorpy.com/node/3572 Yeah, I couldn’t agree with you more D’Arcy. The phonograph as musket is really haunting, and the way in which the ethnography is not looking at him in this image, but the technology is so wild to me. This image blows my mind, as does the other one recently on Shorpy entitled “Waiting:” http://www.shorpy.com/node/3572
]]> By: D'Arcy Norman http://bavatuesdays.com/the-violence-of-reproduction/comment-page-1/#comment-74423 D'Arcy Norman Fri, 13 Jun 2008 15:01:11 +0000 http://bavatuesdays.com/?p=1035#comment-74423 Another layer of the photo - the chief is from a band located in the Calgary area - so he had traveled far from home, was in a foreign country, in a strange place (the Smithsonian would have seemed pretty odd to him), and plunked down in front of what looks like a giant musket muzzle... I'd love to hear the recording though, and perhaps have it translated :-) Another layer of the photo – the chief is from a band located in the Calgary area – so he had traveled far from home, was in a foreign country, in a strange place (the Smithsonian would have seemed pretty odd to him), and plunked down in front of what looks like a giant musket muzzle… I’d love to hear the recording though, and perhaps have it translated :-)
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