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		<title>By: Beautiful Minds</title>
		<link>http://bavatuesdays.com/what-we-do-with-wordpress-echoes-in-eternity/#comment-46654</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Dec 2007 05:12:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Am also thinking of jumping in to wordpress.. Need a migration before that.! a blogger to wp migration.!</description>
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		<title>By: Semiologic Test &#187; "What we do with WordPress echoes in eternity!"</title>
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		<dc:creator>Semiologic Test &#187; "What we do with WordPress echoes in eternity!"</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jul 2007 14:24:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Open, Connected, and Social: Blog Archive &#187; "What we do with WordPress echoes in eternity!"</title>
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		<dc:creator>Open, Connected, and Social: Blog Archive &#187; "What we do with WordPress echoes in eternity!"</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jul 2007 14:22:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Data finds data, then people find people &#171; Jon Udell</title>
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		<dc:creator>Data finds data, then people find people &#171; Jon Udell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Jul 2007 17:58:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Here&#8217;s an example of &#8220;the data finds the data&#8221; in my world. On June 17 I bookmarked this item from Mike Caulfield, who is a local friend, the webmaster at Keene State College, and a forward thinker about Net-enabled education. On June 19 I noticed that Jim Groom &#8212; who is a distant acquantance at the University of Mary Washington and another forward thinker on the same topic &#8212; had responded to Mike&#8217;s post. Ten days later I noticed that Mike had become Jim&#8217;s new favorite blogger. [...]</description>
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		<title>By: jimgroom</title>
		<link>http://bavatuesdays.com/what-we-do-with-wordpress-echoes-in-eternity/#comment-15741</link>
		<dc:creator>jimgroom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Jul 2007 13:26:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Patrick,

You're right, and something like a newspaper, journal, etc.  may be better suited for Drupal.  I think what would make drupal more appealing for folks would be a pre-configured "provisionator" that D'Arcy has envisioned and developed.  Have the configurations work for such scenarios out-of-the-box would make a huge difference for wider adoption in the end. For the Nonce Journal, in large part because of my own ineptitude, I found it easier to hack WordPress a bit to allow them to publish a journal, but with the right ITS at the helm (hint, hint) this may have been  much more powerful system -but would it have been so easily transferable in terms of administration? I'm not sure, a lot o that would depend upon the ways in which Drupal starts simplifying their terms, consolidating access control within modules, have a tinymce editor up and running o install, figuring out the ridiculously difficult module for uploading and adding images to a post, simplifying taxonomies, expanding the selection of themes.As far as the community surrounding Drupal, my biggest concern are the often large holes that become apparent for updating modules more consistently when new versions are introduced.  Moreover, the database structure was so different from 4.x to 5 that I couldn't even downgrade the site without have to be an sql hacker.  All these issues really begin to play a huge part in the upkeep and usability of Drupal for a distributed community, even if an isolated group of students who want to build a more "sophisticated" CMS for web publishing.  I would do, but not without kicking and screaming!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><img style='float: right; margin-left: 10px;' src='http://www.gravatar.com/avatar.php?gravatar_id=a3ce4e45c979a8523a2098808847fcc5&amp;size=60&amp;default=http%3A%2F%2Fuse.perl.org%2Fimages%2Fpix.gif' alt='' />Patrick,</p>
<p>You&#8217;re right, and something like a newspaper, journal, etc.  may be better suited for Drupal.  I think what would make drupal more appealing for folks would be a pre-configured &#8220;provisionator&#8221; that D&#8217;Arcy has envisioned and developed.  Have the configurations work for such scenarios out-of-the-box would make a huge difference for wider adoption in the end. For the Nonce Journal, in large part because of my own ineptitude, I found it easier to hack WordPress a bit to allow them to publish a journal, but with the right ITS at the helm (hint, hint) this may have been  much more powerful system -but would it have been so easily transferable in terms of administration? I&#8217;m not sure, a lot o that would depend upon the ways in which Drupal starts simplifying their terms, consolidating access control within modules, have a tinymce editor up and running o install, figuring out the ridiculously difficult module for uploading and adding images to a post, simplifying taxonomies, expanding the selection of themes.As far as the community surrounding Drupal, my biggest concern are the often large holes that become apparent for updating modules more consistently when new versions are introduced.  Moreover, the database structure was so different from 4.x to 5 that I couldn&#8217;t even downgrade the site without have to be an sql hacker.  All these issues really begin to play a huge part in the upkeep and usability of Drupal for a distributed community, even if an isolated group of students who want to build a more &#8220;sophisticated&#8221; CMS for web publishing.  I would do, but not without kicking and screaming!
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		<title>By: Patrick Gosetti-Murrayjohn</title>
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		<dc:creator>Patrick Gosetti-Murrayjohn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Jul 2007 13:08:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Picking up on what Mike says, and what you (Jim) often value in WordPress, is the emphasis that it is a personal publishing system.  One place where Drupal fits in (you saw this coming!) might be for a group publishing system--one that calls for arranging content both by type and by fine distinctions of audience.  (I've been re-mulling Drupal vs. WordPress applicability to different situations lately.)</description>
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		<title>By: Thoughts and Experiments &#187; links for 2007-07-02</title>
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		<dc:creator>Thoughts and Experiments &#187; links for 2007-07-02</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Jul 2007 00:27:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Mike Caulfield</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike Caulfield</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Jun 2007 13:11:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jim -- you're too kind!
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And of course, it goes even beyond the tools (although I'm lately WP crazy myself) -- it goes into a culture of engagement -- that Willinsky thing about how wrongheaded our exam-book culture is.
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Giving someone a publishing platform tells them: Hey, figure this out, and you can change the world.
.
Making them fill out exam-books and upload documents and comments to password protected CMS areas tells them: Submit yourself for evaluation.
.
(It occurs to me the thing I like most about WordPress is that it's a PERSONAL publishing system -- that's in its DNA and because of that it's more likely to engender a sense of ownership in the student/faculty/staff that use it -- this is YOUR space, man...)
.
I owe you an email back on WPMU and eportfolios, but there has been no motion on getting definitions for NCATE reporting yet, so I'm waiting on that. But in short, yes, I believe that a meta-blog powered by one of these RSS-based aggregators (WP-matic, etc) might be a simpler solution: we tag it all in the meta-blog. Then, if we need to run a report, we run it there -- i think that was what you were proposing over at my blog, right? (been a long week)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><img style='float: right; margin-left: 10px;' src='http://www.gravatar.com/avatar.php?gravatar_id=1d3da1e3852836dcb412d58879c66abc&amp;size=60&amp;default=http%3A%2F%2Fuse.perl.org%2Fimages%2Fpix.gif' alt='' />Jim &#8212; you&#8217;re too kind!<br />
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And of course, it goes even beyond the tools (although I&#8217;m lately WP crazy myself) &#8212; it goes into a culture of engagement &#8212; that Willinsky thing about how wrongheaded our exam-book culture is.<br />
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Giving someone a publishing platform tells them: Hey, figure this out, and you can change the world.<br />
.<br />
Making them fill out exam-books and upload documents and comments to password protected CMS areas tells them: Submit yourself for evaluation.<br />
.<br />
(It occurs to me the thing I like most about WordPress is that it&#8217;s a PERSONAL publishing system &#8212; that&#8217;s in its DNA and because of that it&#8217;s more likely to engender a sense of ownership in the student/faculty/staff that use it &#8212; this is YOUR space, man&#8230;)<br />
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I owe you an email back on WPMU and eportfolios, but there has been no motion on getting definitions for NCATE reporting yet, so I&#8217;m waiting on that. But in short, yes, I believe that a meta-blog powered by one of these RSS-based aggregators (WP-matic, etc) might be a simpler solution: we tag it all in the meta-blog. Then, if we need to run a report, we run it there &#8212; i think that was what you were proposing over at my blog, right? (been a long week)
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		<title>By: Gardner</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gardner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Jun 2007 02:56:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rebecca was my Lyceum poster child last summer, and a just plain wonderful student. Thanks for helping to give her the tools she needs to continue to shine. The tools are two: a great blogging/CMS platform (WordPress, natch), and access to the world of open content/open source/community-driven-development applications. 

That second tool is the tool that rules them all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><img style='float: right; margin-left: 10px;' src='http://www.gravatar.com/avatar.php?gravatar_id=ec9473a49901b9a887893a6073ea49b2&amp;size=60&amp;default=http%3A%2F%2Fuse.perl.org%2Fimages%2Fpix.gif' alt='' />Rebecca was my Lyceum poster child last summer, and a just plain wonderful student. Thanks for helping to give her the tools she needs to continue to shine. The tools are two: a great blogging/CMS platform (WordPress, natch), and access to the world of open content/open source/community-driven-development applications. </p>
<p>That second tool is the tool that rules them all.
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		<title>By: jimgroom</title>
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		<dc:creator>jimgroom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jun 2007 20:07:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I like that, Chris, the third space.  The interstitial space between learning and new forums with overlapping communities.  Awesome! Now, the larger question: Is this eduglu? :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><img style='float: right; margin-left: 10px;' src='http://www.gravatar.com/avatar.php?gravatar_id=a3ce4e45c979a8523a2098808847fcc5&amp;size=60&amp;default=http%3A%2F%2Fuse.perl.org%2Fimages%2Fpix.gif' alt='' />I like that, Chris, the third space.  The interstitial space between learning and new forums with overlapping communities.  Awesome! Now, the larger question: Is this eduglu? <img src='http://bavatuesdays.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />
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