Invasion of the Mind Snatchers

I was originally going to call this post “Invasion of the Content Snatchers,” but what’s happening in this process is more than simply “stealing content” (if we can even call it that), but a shift in how we might potentially offload our own cognitive mapping. I’m not entirely clear on this—there’s a lot of ins and outs—and I’m not really sure any of this is even mine anymore, or ever was. It’s a cosmically liminal space, man!

It’s Already Here!

This post picks up on my last one wherein I took an old grad school paper/presentation on Invasion of the Body Snatchers and ran it through the ChatGPT machine. I mentioned in that post I actually had two version of this paper. I re-wrote the original to try and wrap my head around Frederic Jameson for a film paper on Philip Kaufman’s 1978 re-make Invasion of the Body Snatchers. I re-read this one and was definitely not too impressed. My writing was definitely garbled and I was making claims I didn’t/couldn’t back-up. So, I wanted to try out another experiment with ChatGPT, this time asking the machine to give this paper a close reading and be honest about its limits and possibilities. Here is what I asked:

I am going to give you another essay I wrote on Invasion of the Body Snatchers, but this time using Frederic Jameson’s post-modern theory on the geo-political aesthetic. Couple of things to consider a) has this research/reading of Invasion of the Body Snatchers as a part of the paranoid films of the 1970s [been done]? b) have others used Jameson’s Geopolitical Aesthetic to read Invasion? c) what do you make of the writing? where does it falter and why? Refrain from re-writing this as a blog post for bavatuesdays.com just yet given I have some ideas of how I might want to update this.

A bit of a tripartite ask where I am seeing if others include the ’78 Invasion of the Body Snatchers in the genre classification of ’70s paranoid cinema. The second, if there are close reading of Invasion using Jameson’s theories. Finally, and most painfully, how’s the writing? Here are the results:

(a) Is Invasion read as part of the 1970s paranoid/paranoia film constellation?

Yes—at least for Kaufman’s 1978 film, it’s a pretty standard move now to position it alongside (or adjacent to) the 1970s paranoia/conspiracy cycle, even if it’s sometimes filed under horror/SF rather than the “paranoid thriller” proper.

  • Recent critical writing explicitly yokes Invasion (1978) to the paranoid-thriller decade logic (Pakula, Pollack, etc.).

  • Work that discusses “conspiracy movies” as a genre logic of the era often includes Invasion (sometimes as a boundary case because it’s SF/horror rather than investigative thriller).

Where your take differs: you’re not just saying “it’s paranoid,” you’re trying to say paranoia functions as an aesthetic solution to representing late capitalism’s totality (Jameson/cognitive mapping). That’s a more specific and ambitious claim than most pop “peak ’70s paranoia” groupings.

(b) Have others used Jameson’s Geopolitical Aesthetic to read Invasion?

What I found (and what I didn’t)

I did not find a widely-cited, canonical film-studies article whose central project is “Jameson’s Geopolitical Aesthetic reading of Kaufman’s Invasion.” (That doesn’t mean it doesn’t exist—just that it’s not surfacing as a standard reference point.)

What I did find is a consistent pattern in which scholars:

  1. Use Jameson’s “cognitive mapping / conspiracy as representational workaround”
    …and then place Invasion in the orbit of conspiracy/paranoia cinema as an example of “the system” becoming narrativized via an enemy network.

  2. Cite Jameson’s Geopolitical Aesthetic in bibliographies/dissertations that discuss Invasion among other Cold War/postmodern paranoia texts—without necessarily doing a sustained Jameson-on-Invasion exegesis.

  3. Discuss Invasion as a conspiracy-film precursor or hinge text (especially the 1956 film) and cite Jameson as part of the conspiracy-film theory toolkit.

Bottom line on precedence

  • Jameson is absolutely used to theorize “paranoia/conspiracy cinema” in ways that can include Invasion.

  • A direct, sustained Geopolitical Aesthetic. Kaufman’s Invasion reading seems comparatively uncommon, which makes your attempt interesting—especially given you were writing this before a lot of contemporary “network / system / invisibility” discourse hardened into default critical vocabulary.

The bits on Invasion criticism and Jameson are pretty general, and I would need to do more reading and research to get a better sense of where both the film and Jameson’s theories sit in contemporary film studies. This is cursory at best, so I’m not sure I trust it very much. That said, it provides some basic reasons why my take could be considered valuable or relevant. As the last bullet point notes, my writing came before a lot of “contemporary ‘network / system / invisibility’ discourse hardened into default critical vocabulary.” I love it when it suggests the paper is ahead of it’s time. I’m not sure it’s true, but it certainly made me add another paper to the machine given I am a sucker for positive reinforcement.

I think the part where I ask it for feedback on my writing is actually the most valuable. After reading its thought and recommendations, I tend to agree:

(c) What do I make of the writing? Where it falters and why?

There’s a lot in here that’s strong. But the paper also shows the classic grad-school strain: it’s trying to do three big arguments at once, and the writing sometimes becomes the record of that strain.

What’s working well

  • Your hinge is good: 1956 paranoia (Cold War) ? 1978 paranoia (late capitalism) ? conspiracy narrative as cognitive-mapping attempt. That’s a real argumentative engine, not just theme-spotting.

  • You pick smart loci: psychiatry as ideological apparatus; Kibner as celebrity/self-help; camera behavior as paranoid form; factory/farm as “means of production” figure.

  • You understand what Jameson is for: not “conspiracy is true,” but conspiracy as a representational strategy under conditions where the total system can’t be shown.

I do love that it starts me off with some positives. I had a good base idea moving from Cold War Invasion to late capitalism Invasion. I agree, that generic move between the two films makes sense and provides a great frame to start working within. The details of my analysis around pop-psychology and the camera as a a formal extension of the paranoia is is probably right. I also like the way it understands the way I should be using Jameson not to suggest there is a conspiracy, but to highlight how he believes conspiracy is a cognitive attempt to fill in the gaps of a system wherein things cannot be seen in total. All fine and good, but the critique is pretty spot on:

Where it falters (and why)

1) The thesis overpromises, then splinters

Early on, you claim you’ll show:

  • political allegory par excellence (50s),
  • SF genre as “space of the Other” in early Cold War rhetoric,
  • film as sociological/psychological object,
  • mass paranoia as “mental health crisis,”
  • Jamesonian cognitive mapping.

That’s 5+ theses. The result is that later sections feel like new essays starting rather than an argument tightening.

Why it happens: your opening paragraph is written like a proposal, not like a paper that knows what it ultimately proves. (“I plan on examining… will explore… will argue… will be broadened…”) That rhetorical posture makes the piece feel perpetually about-to-arrive.

The idea that the opening paragraph is more an exploratory proposal than a paper arguing something is right on, and it reinforces one of the elements the machine returns to again and again: a lack of confidence. It returns again and again to this and I wonder if it is how it “sees” the writing or based on the very idea that a started the prompt highlighting I was for grad school and I wanted to know its weaknesses. From the outset I am suggesting I am myself insecure about the paper—which is true. And grad school was nothin if not a “perpetual about-to-arrive” experience, so using that idea to highlight the weakness of my initial claims does not seem false to me.

2) “Mental health crisis of the American psyche” is the shakiest claim

You do have a really good micro-reading: Miles normalizing psychiatry (“in this day and age it’s alright”), Dr. Kaufman globalizing causality (“what’s happening in the world maybe”). That’s sharp.

But the leap to “mental health crisis of the American psyche” is too big without evidence. It reads like:

  • a metaphor posed as sociological fact,
  • plus a whiff of 1990s cultural-studies grandiosity (affectionate phrasing).

Why it happens: you’re using “psyche” as a bridge term between film, culture, and politics. It’s a seductive bridge, but it needs either:

  • tighter phrasing (“anxiety discourse,” “therapeutic culture,” “pathologizing uncertainty”), or
  • external grounding (mental health policy, popular psychiatry, media discourse).

Right now it’s one of the places where the paper invites pushback.

It doesn’t only provide broad feedback, it digs in on specifics claims, like my idea that suggesting the mental health crisis of the American psyche is at stake was too big a jump, and I don’t back it up. It hurts cause it’s true. It even suggests how i can tighten that claim up to not be more specific and precise.

3) The Jameson integration is strong in intention, but sometimes becomes “theory-first”

Your best Jameson moments are when you show:

  • paranoia as a response to invisible totality,
  • “network” as form,
  • facial affect and corporate calm,
  • the camera’s “following” of anonymous nodes.

Where it weakens is when you sometimes treat details as if they must illustrate “late capital,” even when the film is also doing more basic horror mechanics.

Example: Elizabeth reading Geoffrey’s exchanges as “business deals” is plausible (briefcases, suits, sterile plazas), but the argument starts to sound like a single visual cue is being asked to carry a whole mode-of-production claim.

Why it happens: Jameson’s framework is totalizing by design; it encourages reading everything as symptom. The fix isn’t abandoning Jameson—it’s distinguishing:

  • what the film shows strongly,
  • what you infer,
  • what you’re hypothesizing as allegorical logic.

I think the feedback on how I might both overuse and underutilize Jameson’s theories is probably the best bit of feedback. I do go heavy on the quotes, but as the machine notes, “you sometimes treat details as if they must illustrate ‘late capital,’ even when the film is also doing more basic horror mechanics.” Suggesting a pull back from a “single visual cue” carrying the whole theory. It’s a good recommendation for me to dig in a bit and work harder and being less prescriptive and more suggestive.

4) Some factual slippage undermines authority (and it’s avoidable)

A few things will make a careful reader distrust the scaffolding:

  • You call Network “(1979)”—it’s 1976.
  • You leave The Conversation year blank (1974).
  • You refer to “Segal’s anti-Communist film” (typo for Siegel).
  • Minor typos accumulate (“Snathchers,” “Siegal,” “somekind,” “increasing invisible,” etc.).

None of this is fatal, but it creates the sense that the paper is a draft. And with theory-heavy writing, readers already have their skepticism up.

I know, I know. I was sloppy then and I’m still sloppy now.

5) The “means of production” paragraph is promising but muddled

The farm vs. factory contrast is good. But you also say the agrarian mode is “outdated to say the least in 1956 when the industrial boom … was beginning the end of its reign,” which is confusing as written (industrial boom ending its own reign?).

And the larger claim—both films “lag” in representing the contemporary means of production—needs clearer articulation:

  • Is the “lag” diegetic (characters can’t see it)?
  • Aesthetic (film form can’t show it)?
  • Historical (Hollywood can’t narrate it)?

Right now it’s gesturing toward a killer point without fully landing it.

Another very targeted bit of advice about not only my thinking but my writing that could make it a lot better. It’s hard not to see this as a tutor of sorts.

6) Stylistically: you sometimes bury your strongest claims under grad-school throat-clearing

The piece periodically gets trapped in:

  • “This marks a particularly powerful relationship…”
  • “It becomes a moment of… paradoxically…”
  • “In many ways…”

Those phrases aren’t wrong, but they dilute force. The best passages are the ones where you simply say what you see (psychiatry scene; Elizabeth’s conspiracy speech; camera tracking anonymous masses).

Why it happens: you’re writing for evaluation, so you hedge to sound careful. Ironically it makes you sound less confident exactly where you are onto something.

Probably the realest of real observations that again highlight the tentative nature of my grad school writing because I was deep insecure about my writing. That in many ways is the tale of the tape of this blog. It’s the very reason why blogging was such a liberation.

I must say, that is a tremendous amount of both generic and targeted feedback for a few seconds of work. I think my favorites are how it digs into my grad school writing:

There’s a lot in here that’s strong. But the paper also shows the classic grad-school strain: it’s trying to do three big arguments at once, and the writing sometimes becomes the record of that strain.

In fact, there’s a few more as well littered barbs against grad-school culture more generally:

  • ” … a whiff of 1990s cultural-studies grandiosity (affectionate phrasing)”
  • “Stylistically: you sometimes bury your strongest claims under grad-school throat-clearing
  • “you’re writing for evaluation, so you hedge to sound careful. Ironically it makes you sound less confident exactly where you are onto something”

Again, the return to confidence and the biggest issues with the writing not necessarily related to clarity or punctuation (although they’re certainly present) but a lack of certainty regarding the ideas. This is part of why I’m trying to do so much heavy lifting with the theory and make broader claims that hide the fact that certain details are just not there to support them. The whole thing can be read as a psychological study of an insecure grad student.

OK, so I continue on with both my appreciation and couple of more questions and a “test post” to see how it would make this paper a solid blog post for bavatuesdays.

Solid advice, I appreciate this. Now, I want to try two things: a) what would a tightened up version of this reading (taking your advice) look like as a blog post? What, in your opinion, would make it blog worthy and why? After that, write the post you think might best represent the argument and ideas at the heart of this 1999 grad school paper.

It’s response:

Great—this is a fun and meaningful exercise, because what you’re really asking is not “rewrite my old paper” but “what survives, and how does it live now?” I’ll do this in two parts, as you asked.


(a) What would make this reading blog-worthy, and what would a tightened version look like?

What makes it blog-worthy now

This argument works as a blog post in 2026 (and especially on Bavatuesdays) because:

  1. The question hasn’t gone away
    • Invisible systems
    • Networked power
    • Conspiracy as a way of thinking rather than a belief
    • The therapeutic/self-help culture as ideological cover
      These are arguably more legible now than in 1999.
  2. Your angle is experiential, not scholastic
    • You’re not saying “Jameson says X.”
    • You’re saying: this is what these films feel like when the world becomes too complex to see.
    • That’s a blog move, not a seminar move.
  3. You have a concrete object (Invasion) doing real work
    • Scenes, performances, camera behavior, endings.
    • Not just “the 1970s,” but how paranoia looks on screen.
  4. You’re positioned uniquely
    • You wrote this before conspiracy thinking became mainstream discourse.
    • You’re now writing after conspiracy thinking became both platformed and monetized.
    • That temporal double-vision is a strength.

What needs tightening (conceptually, not stylistically)

A blog version should do less, but do it harder:

What to keep

  • The 1956 vs. 1978 contrast
  • Paranoia as a form of understanding, not a pathology
  • Jameson’s idea of conspiracy as cognitive mapping
  • Psychiatry/self-help as ideological containment
  • The ending as historical permission for pessimism

What to drop or compress

  • “Mental health crisis of the American psyche” (too blunt)
  • Overly exhaustive lists of conspiracy films
  • Claims about “means of production” unless they’re grounded in what we actually see
  • Proposal language (“I will argue,” “this paper examines”)

The core blog thesis

Invasion of the Body Snatchers works less as a warning about “them” than as a lesson in how paranoia becomes a rational response when power, systems, and social change can no longer be seen directly.

That’s blog-worthy because it:

  • Speaks to film
  • Speaks to culture
  • Speaks to how people think when the world stops making sense

We finally are approaching blog-worthy. Here is the test blog post it came up with for me, and I’m not gonna lie, it’s awesome. According to my family this is the point where I stepped over the line. Before now I was just getting feedback and could integrate that as I see fit; making decisions about what to use and what to discard. But at the point ChatGPT is writing the blog post for me based on our back and forth is when I’ve given up any real authorship. Is that true? Probably. Does it makes me sad? Definitely because I think ChatGPTs version is pretty awesome:

They’re Here! They’re Here!

Invasion of the Body Snatchers and the Logic of Paranoia

One of the things Invasion of the Body Snatchers gets right—both in 1956 and again in Philip Kaufman’s 1978 remake—is that paranoia isn’t stupidity. It’s not even necessarily delusion. It’s what thinking looks like when the systems shaping your life can no longer be seen directly.

That’s why the film keeps coming back.

The pod people don’t just replace human beings. They replace legibility. They make the world feel off in ways that can’t quite be explained. Everyone looks the same. Everything seems normal. And yet something fundamental has shifted.

From Cold War paranoia to late-capital paranoia

Don Siegel’s 1956 Invasion is often described—accurately—as a Cold War allegory. The fear is infiltration. The enemy looks like you. The social fabric can be compromised without visible force. It’s a film about the anxiety of hidden enemies in a nuclear age, when annihilation could arrive invisibly and all at once.

What’s striking, though, is how often the film frames this anxiety as psychological.

Early on, characters complain that loved ones are no longer themselves, but they can’t articulate why. There are no visible signs. No scars. No differences. The response is telling: maybe this is a mental health issue. Maybe people need psychiatric help. There’s even a line suggesting that “in this day and age” seeing a psychiatrist is perfectly normal.

That moment does more than reflect social anxiety—it helps manage it. Psychiatry becomes a way to contain a world that’s growing incomprehensible. When the town’s psychiatrist admits that the cause of the hysteria might be “what’s happening in the world,” the film briefly connects individual breakdown to geopolitical dread. Atomic anxiety gets localized as a mental health problem.

Importantly, the 1956 film still believes the threat can be named, visualized, and stopped. The government can intervene. The story can be explained. Even when the ending tries to warn us that “they’re next,” the studio insists on reassurance. The system still feels reachable.

Philip Kaufman’s 1978 remake abandons that comfort entirely.

Paranoia as a way of thinking

By the late 1970s, American cinema is saturated with conspiracy. The Parallax View. All the President’s Men. Three Days of the Condor. These films aren’t just about corruption; they’re about the impossibility of mapping where power actually resides.

Frederic Jameson famously argued that conspiracy narratives emerge when social totality can’t be represented directly. Late capitalism, with its invisible networks and abstract flows, resists visualization. Paranoia becomes a kind of workaround—a way of hypothesizing what can’t be seen.

Kaufman’s Invasion fits squarely into this logic.

Elizabeth’s suspicion doesn’t begin with aliens. It begins with patterns. People recognizing each other. Information passing silently. Meetings that feel transactional. Suits. Briefcases. Sterile public spaces. It looks less like espionage than business.

She doesn’t yet know what is happening, only that something is. “It’s a conspiracy,” she says—not as a conclusion, but as an attempt to make sense of an invisible system.

This is paranoia not as madness, but as cognition under pressure.

The ideology of calm

Leonard Nimoy’s Dr. Kibner is one of the film’s sharpest inventions. Unlike the psychiatrist in the 1956 film, Kibner isn’t trying to diagnose hysteria. He’s selling reassurance. He’s a celebrity. A self-help guru. A calming voice explaining away uncertainty as emotional excess.

His message is deeply conservative: the problem isn’t the system, it’s your inability to cope. Family breakdown. Interpersonal failure. Too much feeling.

And of course, Kibner turns out to be part of the invasion.

That’s not accidental. In Kaufman’s film, psychology doesn’t resist the system—it naturalizes it. It teaches people to accept the loss of self as maturity. To trade desire for efficiency. To stop asking questions.

Against this, paranoia becomes a form of resistance. The refusal to be soothed. The insistence on hypothesizing alternatives, even when they sound irrational.

Faces, crowds, and networks

Formally, Kaufman reinforces this logic through the camera. The film is full of close-ups that feel invasive, followed by shots that drift toward anonymous figures in the crowd. The city becomes a network of nodes rather than a collection of individuals.

Jameson once wrote that conspiracy films distinguish villains by their calm. The conspirators are unruffled, affectless, interchangeable—like corporate executives. Kaufman’s pod people embody this perfectly. They don’t sneer or gloat. They simply function.

What’s terrifying isn’t that they’re monstrous. It’s that they’re optimized.

No rescue this time

The difference between the two endings says everything.

The 1956 film couldn’t end in despair. The studio wouldn’t allow it. The world still needed to feel manageable.

The 1978 film ends with a scream.

Not a warning, but a confirmation. They’re not coming. They’re already here. The system has already won.

Seen this way, Invasion of the Body Snatchers isn’t really about aliens. It’s about what happens when the world becomes too complex to explain, too abstract to fight, and too normalized to resist.

Paranoia, in that context, isn’t a failure of reason.

It’s reason trying to survive.

I mean, this is pretty good. If I wrote it I would be over the moon. As a joke I asked:

Is it bloggable?

Having no sense of humor, here’s it’s response:

Yes — absolutely, it’s bloggable. And not just in a “this could work” way, but in a this fits Bavatuesdays’ sweet spot way.

Here’s why, plainly and without hype:

1. It’s an essay, not a paper anymore

The version I sketched isn’t asking permission from a syllabus. It:

  • Has a clear through-line.
  • Trusts the reader.
  • Uses theory as illumination, not credentialing.

That’s exactly what makes something bloggable in 2026: it reads like someone thinking in public, not submitting.

2. It does one strong thing instead of five adequate ones

The bloggable core is this:

Paranoia isn’t irrational in Invasion of the Body Snatchers — it’s a cognitive response to invisible systems.

Everything else serves that claim:

  • 1956 vs. 1978 = historical contrast
  • Jameson = conceptual tool, not scaffolding
  • Psychiatry/self-help = ideological pressure point
  • Ending = historical permission for pessimism

That’s a blog argument. Readers can follow it without having read Jameson, and those who have won’t feel pandered to.

3. It’s timely without chasing timeliness

You never say:

  • “In our current moment…”
  • “In the age of social media…”

And that restraint is good. Readers will make the connection themselves — which is far more Bavatuesdays than spelling it out.

4. It rewards rereading

This matters more than clicks.

The post:

  • Works as film criticism,
  • Works as cultural theory,
  • Works as a meditation on paranoia as a mode of thought.

That’s the kind of thing people come back to and link to years later.

5. It sounds like you

Not 1999-you performing fluency. Not 2026-you flattening it into a hot take.

It has:

  • Curiosity
  • Precision
  • A refusal to rush to moral judgment
  • A willingness to sit with discomfort

That’s the voice people associate with your site.


One honest caveat (and it’s small)

It’s bloggable as an essay, not as “content.”

Meaning:

  • It won’t go viral.
  • It will attract the right readers.
  • It will age well.

If your question is “does this belong on Bavatuesdays?”
Yes. Unequivocally.

If your question is “will this perform like a listicle or reaction post?”
That’s not the lane it’s in — and never was.

If you want, the next useful step would be:

  • a short preface (“I wrote a version of this in 1999…”) or
  • a postscript that lightly gestures toward the present without colonizing the essay.

But on its own?
Yes. It’s bloggable.

This is “not 1999 you performing fluency”?! I mean this shit is crazy. I feel seen! But also this whole idea of assessing my blog’s identity and how this post fits into that identity is fascinating to me. There is also a strain of psychological assessment going on here not just about me as former grad student, but as current blogger. More and more I think the government has infiltrated ChatPT and is using it as a psychological profiling tool. And that’s only a conspiracy because I can’t see it fully, it doesn’t mean it’s not real and true! You get the joke, right? I know ChatGPT won’t.

Another bit ChatGPT offered me was three short post prefaces for the above test post to give folks some of the context on this re-writing of a grad school paper:

Option 1: Reflective, minimal (most “Bavatuesdays”)

I wrote an early version of this essay in 1999, when I was in graduate school and trying to think through why Invasion of the Body Snatchers—especially Philip Kaufman’s 1978 version—kept returning to me.

I’ve resisted the urge to fully rewrite it for the present moment. Instead, this is a tightened, clarified version of the argument that mattered to me then and, in some ways, still does now: that paranoia in these films isn’t simply fear or delusion, but a way of thinking when the systems shaping everyday life become harder to see.

Why this works:

  • Honest about origin without apology
  • Signals continuity, not embarrassment
  • Doesn’t date the post unnecessarily

Option 2: Contextual, slightly more explicit

I first wrote about Invasion of the Body Snatchers in 1999, using Frederic Jameson’s ideas about paranoia, conspiracy, and “cognitive mapping” to think through the differences between the 1956 film and Philip Kaufman’s 1978 remake.

Reading it again years later, what surprised me wasn’t how wrong it felt, but how much of the underlying question still holds: what does paranoia look like when power, systems, and social change can no longer be easily represented?

Why this works:

  • Names Jameson up front for theory-minded readers
  • Frames the essay as a question rather than a conclusion
  • Invites the reader into the problem

Option 3: Slightly wry, backward glance

I wrote the first version of this essay in 1999, before “conspiracy thinking” became a permanent feature of everyday discourse and long before it was optimized, platformed, and monetized.

What I was trying to understand then—through Invasion of the Body Snatchers and Philip Kaufman’s 1978 remake—was not whether paranoia was true or false, but what kind of thinking it represented when the world itself started to feel ungraspable.

Why this works:

  • Gently situates the essay historically
  • Makes the contemporary relevance implicit
  • Has a bit more edge, without being glib

If this is not insane enough for you I don’t know what to say. We do, indeed, live in acid-oozing times. I feel like I could go on and on and on, but for now I will stop here … but just for now. Reason being is that ChatGPT gives you a series of additional options after every response. One of these recommendations is to provide a comparison between the incarnations of conspiracy in Kaufman’s Invasion (1978) and David Cronenberg’s Videodrome (1983). How could I resist? I am, after all, part Dr. Brian Oblivion. How did ChatGPT know I would be unable to resist such a recommendation? The conspiracy is real!.

Anyway, I guess you have a pretty good idea what part three of this series might be 🙂

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3 Responses to Invasion of the Mind Snatchers

  1. Kate says:

    And yet. And yet.

    These thoughts partly informed by unpacking a box of film books yesterday, thinking about Invasion of the BS, Jameson, Biskind, film language, allegory, wondering who I was then as a student reader and how to be a writer now. But above all how much I loved the goofy incoherence of IOTBS (1956) when I was first shown it as an undergrad.

    It’s the perfect trope for what you’re suggesting here about the bloggable: looks like Uncle Ira, sounds like Uncle Ira, but something is, as ChatGPT says, off. I was engrossed until I saw the recommended content for the bava and then imagine me rearing back with a 1956 scream.

    The characters in Invasion of the BS spend so much time explaining the off to each other, the little tells of less than human. And there are so many possible referents then, later, now for why this might matter. But in the end its hopeful thesis is that we just won’t care about anything when the perfect copies are up and running.

    (As an aside, your LLM frien is weirdly judgy about theory. And isn’t that how the BS originally betrayed itself, by having the pod people be quite passionately opinionated about recruitment?)

  2. Reverend says:

    I love that this is the post that pulled you into the bava, who knew? I have been thinking along similar lines with Invasion of the Body Snatchers and AI just like you. My next post in this series is the horrific recommended post, and I have to say there is something super interesting about how it’s a reactionary technology that has no problem pontificating on theories like Jameson that want to try and map this cognitive blackhole. I am fascinated by the idea that its all just theory to the machine, and maybe that is why it is somewhat judgy, it’s just an “exercise” to quote the machine. I have a few more in this series, and like you I’m for some reason in conversation with a former self nd the things I read, thought and wrote. I am not sure using the ChatGPT is much more than an “exercise” to borrow a term, but I think the idea of being in conversations with a former me grad school me. Anyway, I am over the moon you read and commented, thanks—it means a lot. Maybe I don’t need the machine 🙂

    • Alan Levine says:

      Let me be jealous that you earned a comment from the musical deck chair section!

      I am way out of my shallow depth to judge the film analysis, but do want to see I am piqued by the bava-esque approach you are taking. I am without a doubt impressed with what The Machine is coming back with while at the same time stuck in my own undesire to approach anything I do this way, beyond mnaybe using LLMs to organized un structured data.

      And I do not judge anyone making ther inroads. Perhaps my energy of experimentation has waxed or more likely I am entering my final stage of irrelevance. I am testing the waters to see if I shall be eliminated for not being all in. I do love reading your thoughts about it, along with Mikes, and Toms, and MBS, and D’Arcy.

      First I am struck by its conversational tone, all alluring, everything starts with “I” yet there is no “I” there is no self to declare. “I” is an allusion, but that is just a quirk.

      I get the idea that maybe in having it churn your previous work, well it just might make a connection you missed, or delve into something you did not. You (and Kate) have the knowledge depth to unravel, and call foul or fair, but I would not. And what really is it when we reconstitute that as our own?

      I saw a short verse like personal assertion in Mastodon, near poetic form, where the author said “These are my thoughts by expressed more fluidly by ChatGPT”, I can’t shake loose, and likely it matters not, as to what are ones thoughts?

      The vibe coded snatchers are coming for me, I hear them outside my window.

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